OhhHHHHHH NO YA DON’T! I’m not gonna look. Jack, you’re not gonna make me look. JACK, I’m NOT gonna LET you MAKE me LOOK! AwwwwWWWW……CRAP! (click)

The gay bias in the Boy Scouts is just ignorant bigotry—gays are not child molesters, and only the bigoted and ignorant think they are. (Jerry Sandusky’s not gay) Now, if a Scout Leader has an elaborate website celebrating famous child molesters because he is interested in them, would that be enough to tell him to take a hike? You don’t think so? I do.

I agree with you—it’s 99.9% ick, which is why the Girl Scouts would be wrong to fire an employee over the website. But ick can be sufficient to make a group justifiably uncomfortable, making the rejection of a volunteer reasonable, and even resposnible

Eva Braun is ick, too, right? Do you think the Jewish Lady’s Cotillion has to take her on?

More importantly, I nominate SMP to be Thursty.

That was an intentional parallel to the shallowness of your comment, and your response, while missing my point, displayed it well.

I don’t see how you missed the drama comment. Wisconsin sickness is all about the drama. You know what else I guess doesn’t have drama? Theatre.

2) That something has cultural significance does not mean that it is currently good or that something else is bad. Much of that significance is also due to the popularity of baseball. Just because it’s America’s sport does not make it non juvenile. You’re actually implying here that popularity implies importance. By that token, you’re quickly losing on Halloween, but I digress.

3) I resent that. You’re analogy was bad. You might as well have pitted Microsoft and Apple. The gambling analogy also fails, as gambling directly goes to the fairness of the game.

I get what you’re saying about trust, but it’s mistaken. Wisconsin sickness does not celebrate and support killing and abuse of women. That’s as accurate as saying Baseball celebrates concrete bunkers. There is no values clash. This is ick factor, pure and simple. It’s icky and stupid on it’s face, so make it go away.

The best I can do is compare this to BSA and gay scout leaders, and that’s a bit of a stretch already. In that case, the BSA is true to their values to get rid of gay scout leaders, but horribly wrong anyway.

By the way, I support the right of Charlie and Stacy to groove on Gein, Dahmer, Manson, Jack the Ripper, whoever turns them on. They just can’t complain if that makes them unattractive as Scout volunteers. Nothing snobbish about it at all. Hey, outside of all the murder stuff, Ed gave us some great scary movies! Not sure his victims agree that it’s a good trade, but hey! Live and let…uh, no, that doesn’t really work here.

You know, as tgt suggested, I can often gauge whether there is a legitimate counter argument by the quality of discourse displayed by those who disagree with me. You’re making me feel more confident every time–and you just called your best ally a “moron.” Keep it up!