On Trump, Tucker, The GOP Debate And The News Media On A Depressing Wednesday Night, Part 1

What an awful display of what Americans will have to choose from if it wants to avoid the Democratic Party’s determined march to censorship, world governance, environmental fascism, abortion at will, open borders, racial preferences and more.

The unethical, frankly nauseating Tucker Carlson suck-up session with Donald Trump was the bottom of last’s night’s barrel, as the former President continued his rejection of the opportunity for voters to see him next to his competitors for the GOP nomination—it’s called “having respect for democracy and the American public, you ass—and allied himself with twin narcissist Carlson’s “Take THAT, Fox News!” campaign. Carlson again showed that he is no journalist, just a self-aggrandizing hack, by never asking Trump a single critical question or anything Donald might take umbrage at, like, say, “Where in the Constitution is your mirage that the Vice-President can refuse to certify the election?” or “How can Americans trust you to be President when you have advocated suspending the Constitution? ” Nah, Tucker was more interested in pressing Trump on whether Democrats would try to have him killed. I suppose, if Trump had not already disqualified himself for any major elected office with his despicable, irresponsible—but not illegal or impeachable—conduct after the 2020 election in one’s eyes, this might have helped:

“Jan. 6 was a very interesting day because they don’t report it properly. People in that crowd said it was the most beautiful day they ever experienced. There was love and unity. I have never seen such spirit and such passion and such love. And I’ve also never seen, simultaneously and from the same people, such hatred at what they’ve done to our country.”

Seriously? Those loving people embarrassed the whole nation, caused immeasurable political, cultural and psychic damage, engaged in a horrific riot, and gave ammunition to a party seeking to use such excesses to crack down on individual liberties and political dissent. And who is “they” in that paragraph? As usual, Trump was semi-incoherent. He did provide another excellent case study in ethics estoppel, actually telling Carlson that some of the participants in the debate they were deliberately sabotaging shouldn’t be running. That’s true, but Donald Trump, who had no justification to be on the stage for the first GOP debate, also on Fox, in 2015, is the last person on Earth who should make that accusation.

Yechh. Also blech, bah, ack, gack, ptui, and ew. The interview was just one more bit of evidence of how unfit to be President this man is. It was also more evidence that Tucker Carlson is a blight on the media.

On to last night’s debate, such as it was. The proliferation of candidates, dividing the non-Trump vote, is stupid and irresponsible, and having a debate among all of them without the overwhelming front-runner just shows an incompetent party. Trump should have been told months ago that participating in the debates was a prerequisite for participating in the primaries. He should have been told that refusing to pledge support for the party’s nominee would mean that he was ineligible for the nomination.

There I go, falling into Trump’s trap like everyone else, talking about him when the topic is the candidates running against him.

I think I’ll take a break now while I run to the loo to vomit.

See you in Part 2…

14 thoughts on “On Trump, Tucker, The GOP Debate And The News Media On A Depressing Wednesday Night, Part 1

  1. Here’s what I had to say about Tucker’s interview of Trump…

    I want something to vote FOR!

    I’m interested in hearing the specific policies the GOP candidates and how they would achieve their goals if President. Here is what I’d like to see Fox do; interview all of the GOP candidates one-on-one, they all get exactly the same questions and any time the candidate starts attacking any other GOP candidate they turn their damn mic off and get them back on track. Give each a 2 minute opening and 2 minute closing statement to start and finish the interview and limit the interview to 60 minutes, no exceptions.

    I’m quite sick and tired of being sick and tired!

    I don’t want to vote against someone, I don’t want to vote to get vengeance for past wrongs, I don’t want to vote and then have to perform a post vote purge because all the candidates on the ballot makes me sick, I want to vote FOR someone.

    • Steve
      What they call debates they are not.
      Your desire for giving all the same questions and giving them time to make nuanced answers is exactly what I long for.
      When the goal is ratings you get crap

  2. I actually didn’t mind the debate, and that it was very constructive. yes, all contenders are, for now, competing for number 2, but that’s OK, as this will help flush out some of the candidates, and will help focus and hone the party’s messaging on key issues that will be decisive (especially abortion and Trump/J6). We have to remind ourselves that we’re still 9+ months away from the primary elections. I do think that Trump’s numbers will start to recede, and one or two candidates will separate themselves, which is all you need. I still hope the GOP voters will gradually understand and accept that Trump will never win a general election; we just need to make sure that the true best option is at number 2 position at the time.
    I think this debate was helpful for RonD… he didn’t crush it (he was and still is nervous, and he sticks too much to prepared sound bites), but did enough to hold on to no. 2, and should learn from this

    • I still hope the GOP voters will gradually understand and accept that Trump will never win a general election

      That is not something that they would understand.

      See this Facebook post from my Facebook friend, Stephen Michael Stirling.

      Politics: Obama carried “non-white”(*) working-class voters by 68 points.
      In 2020, Biden carried them by 48 points — still large, but down nearly 20%.
      According to the latest New York Times/Sienna poll, his margin among them has slipped to 16 points — a drop of 32 points since 2020, in only 3 years.
      This is the basic reason that the Biden-Trump rematch is a dead heat now.
      Democratic gains among white college grads aren’t enough to compensate; because the American population is about 2/3 non-college grads, and among Hispanics much more so (about 75%, IIRC).
      (*) to be clear, “race” is a social category, not an “objective” fact.
      Hence it shifts over time.
      In the 1750’s, Benjamin Franklin complained that non-white immigrants were crowding out the white people in Pennsylvania… and he was referring to -German- and -Swedish- immigrants.
      The Germans ‘became white’ (socially) in the 18th century, the Irish in the 19th, the Jews and Italians in the early 20th, and now it’s Hispanics.
      Who increasingly vote the same way Anglos do who are otherwise similar; similar in education, income, place of residence, etc.

      • well, a shellacking in 2024, which what the GOP will suffer if Trump is the nominee, may be the only way such people would finally open their eyes–and I do mean shellacking, because if Trump is on the top of ticket, this will cost the GOP many winnable Senate and House races (because a lot of people don’t split their ticket, and many people who may have not voted will show up and vote).

        • Perhaps nominating someone other than Trump and watching the Trump supporters not show up to vote would open some eyes as well.

          • We had this discussion last time. Both wings of the party have to show up and have to vote or neither of them might as well.

            • I’m not voting for people who hate me, my way of life, my principles, and everything I stand for. I see nothing ethical about masochism. The Republican Party had the option of realigning their priorities to match the priorities of the voters. They refused. This particular degenerate, deplorable, listless vessel will only be voting for candidates who represent me going forward. The days of straight party voting are over.

                • So be it. This game of threatening the voters with more abuse if they don’t bow down and vote for the establishment is old. There are worse things ain’t cutting it anymore. The system of government we have doesn’t work if the voters give up their principles when threatened by the elites. I’m not negotiating with the elites over how much of my freedoms they get to take this go round anymore. They get none of them. No more lockdowns, no more infringement on freedom of speech or religion, no more theft of property through taxation and inflation, no more any of it. They want a nation of cowed citizenry, and they can’t have one. This false choice between evil and eviler is played out.

              • I’m not voting for people who hate me, my way of life, my principles, and everything I stand for.

                And you voted for Trump? I should like to sell you a bridge.

        • You do not seem to have addressed Stephen Michael Stirling’s Facebook post.

          Obama carried “non-white”(*) working-class voters by 68 points.
          In 2020, Biden carried them by 48 points — still large, but down nearly 20%.
          According to the latest New York Times/Sienna poll, his margin among them has slipped to 16 points — a drop of 32 points since 2020, in only 3 years

          Where is this shellacking supposed to come from, if Democrats are losing ground on a key constituency?

  3. I think I have explored the Trump is the least bad option idea enough, so I won’t repeat that here. I just have a few thoughts on proceedings.

    1. What is it about TV that makes news so awful? Seriously, I think you can take the reports from CNN and just assume the opposite is true, and you would usually be right. None of the other leftist media is any better, and see above for Fox and Tucker.

    2. I think Trump is in a unique position where he is running for a non-consecutive presidency. If any one wants to know what Trump is going to be like as president, look at 2016-2020. Having him at the debates really wouldn’t show anyone anything new.

    3. Speaking of not learning anything, Trump shows his flat learning curve again. You would think he might have a clue after the Charlottesville good people lie that never goes away. And then he spouts that verbal diarrhea about Jan 6th. Personally I regard the Jan 6th crowd as a bunch of harmless morons whose crimes don’t exceed the level of trespassing and petty vandalism. But the most beautiful day? Love and unity? Now I might need to vomit.

    4. I don’t like the whole pledge of unity thing the Republicans keep trying to pull. Frankly it’s un-American and disgusting. The South Carolina legislature tried the same sort of thing to shut down the Freedom Caucus chapter there. The correct response is no, I don’t agree to avoid criticizing or voting against the Republican nominee, I will exercise my own judgement as an American citizen. If you don’t like it, bite me. As if trying to enforce unity from the top down would work anyway. The Stupid Party indeed.

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