In a Sunday post on Powerline, Scott Johnson, an unrepentant Hall & Oates fan, begins a review of a recent John Oates concert by writing, “John Oates is one-half of what is generally recognized as the most successful duo in music history.” And thus did he fall into the eternal trap awaiting those who state matters of personal taste as fact.
I’ve fallen into it myself. It is hard not to: once your mind has locked itself into an opinion about what is “best” and what/who/where is better than whatever/whoever/wherever, confirmation bias takes over, and objective thought is nearly impossible.
Johnson was, as I knew the second I read that sentence, dragged to the metaphorical woodshed by his readers. Wrote one, in the second comment on the post, “John Oates is one-half of what is generally recognized as the most successful duo in music history? Maybe by sales. But in terms of their work, let me introduce you to the music of Simon & Garfunkel. Then the Everly Brothers. Then the Carpenters. Then Ike & Tina Turner.” Another wrote, “My guess is that Scott included that appraisal just to raise some feathers.
‘Maybe by sales.”‘Actually, I’d guess that the first three you mention sold way more records than Hall and Oates. Musically speaking, my candidate for the most successful duo might be Steely Dan, which, for most of its tenure, was really the duo of Donald Fagen and Walter Becker with various backing musicians.”
Next came this: “Yes to Simon and Garfunkel. Yes to Phil and Don. No to the Carpenters and heck no to Ike and Tina.”
Now in my case, and by my tastes, I would rank Simon and Garfunkle way ahead of Hall and Oates, and the Everly Brothers as well. No, of course The Carpenters aren’t in the same league, though Karen Carpenter was the greatest vocalist ever to sing with any rock or pop duo. Another group didn’t last as long, and perhaps this is because my college room mate played their Greatest Hits album day and night, but I rank the Righteous Brothers ahead of Hall and Oates as well.
Such absolute verdicts also risk being incomplete and ill-informed because of bias blindness. I wondered about another duo who made their mark in the decidedly uncool genre of “easy listening” music, but they were damn good, and lasted a long time. The piano duo Ferrante & Teicher recorded over 150 albums, were fixtures on the variety TV shows of the Fifties and Sixties, and sold over 90 million records worldwide during their career. From the 1950s until they retired in 1989, they earned 22 gold and platinum records, dwarfing the output of both Hall and Oates and Paul and Artie.
You have to admit, as that video of them playing one of their biggest hits, “The Theme From Exodus,” the piano boys did what they did as well as it was possible to do it, for a long time, and with a lot of admirers.
“The grand twins of the twin grands!” Hahahahahaha! Take it away boys. And keep those wrists and forearms flying high.
I think he is correct in his statement. He didn’t say Best. He said most successful. With 75 million record sales, 34 billboard hits with 6 of them going to number 1, they likely are the most successful musical duos.
Now Steve: I just pointed out that Ferrante and Teischer sold more records than H&O, so on even on the basis of sales alone, they can’t be ruled “most successful.” But beyond that, in art, success isn’t measured by commerce, or Leroy Neiman would be regarded as a more successful artist than Von Gogh. Salieri was more successful than Mozart. I regard success for an artist as creating the most lasting, high quality, influential and creative art And I would posit that the best artists agree with me.
Sure. The “greatest” this or “best” that is always subject to personal taste. Save and except when one discusses Rush, the Canadian Triumvirate. Rush is and will always be the greatest band in the history of rock bands. No debate whatsoever. Just fact. Period. End of story.
jvb
Ha! I bet myself a million bucks that you would write that comment! Thanks for not disappointing me.
Indeed. We, the Rushinati, are a predictable lot when it comes to the Canadian Triumvirate.
jvb
Isn’t it a serious breach of ethics to reference a screechingly pretentious bunch of Canadian LZ wannabes as the “best” without adding the context of the annual Imitate a Dying Garbage Disposal contest?
Hall and Oates credited with 17 million US record sales
Brooks and Dunn credited with 20 million US record sales
The Righteous Brothers 7.5 million
Simon and Garfunkel 70 million
The Everly Brothers 500,000
The Judds 11 million
Steely Dan 10.6 million
Great stats, signifying that record sales tell us nothing regarding quality of even popularity. I don’t even know who Brooks and Dunn are…
And we all forgot about Sonny and Cher! google says they sold over 40 million records worldwide, before Cher went solo.