Quote of the Week: Joan Rivers

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AHHHHGGGGGRRRRRhhhrrrah….

Comedienne Joan Rivers, 81, in her reported final words before expiring yesterday.

Just kidding.

Too soon?

Joan Rivers would rate Ethics Hero status if I did not have a philosophical objection to calling someone a hero because everyone else is a weenie. Yes, Rivers spouted off whatever outrageous, impolitic, offensive thing that materialized in her nimble brain regardless of who it might offend, as long as she felt someone, or a critical mass of someones, would find it funny. That is the proper mindset for any professional comic, but it has become both a rare and dangerous one, as we regularly see comedians grovelling in remorse as soon as sufficient numbers of well-placed critics designate a joke as “insensitive.”

Rivers, whom I can never recall making me laugh for a second, served an important cultural purpose while she was alive, as do Jackie Mason, Mel Brooks and Don Rickles, perhaps the last remaining in-your-face comedians from the days when funny was all that mattered, and careers weren’t ended  by stepping just a little too far over the line, or even a lot too far. Her successors, like Sarah Silverman and Lewis Black, don’t count: they are vicious toward whatever group or groups their audience deems deserving of abuse, and only them. In the end, it is likely that the only clowns with the license that Rivers enjoyed will be animated cartoons, like Peter Griffin(“The Family Guy”) and Homer Simpson.

That will be a tragedy for both comedy and the spirit of the First Amendment, but hailed as a victory by the indignantly politically correct. Eventually, they’ll get Homer and Peter too, just as the old Warner Brothers cartoons, which taught a generation the basics of slapstick comedy and comic timing, have been largely banished from TV for being “too violent.” It won’t be long before the last recorded primer on doing pratfalls will be “Seinfeld” episodes, because Michael Richards (“Kramer”) was one of the all-time greats.

And we all know what happened to him.

Without Rivers or someone of similar visibility and prominence to keep fighting for free expression, the media will dictate what we can and can’t say. It is more than a bit strange to see cable news give Joan a near-Robin Williams send-off when she was regularly reviled by the same pundits praising her now, indeed, excessively praising her. She was not the trailblazer for female comedians she is being called today: Fannie Brice was that trailblazer, with Lucille Ball and Carol Burnett close behind. The trailblazer in stand-up was Phyllis Diller, whom Rivers both imitated and stole material from: this morning’s Washington Post remembrance of Rivers credits Rivers with a joke that Diller made on the Ed Sullivan show about a decade before anyone heard of Joan Rivers ( “On our wedding night, my husband said, ‘Can I help you with the buttons?’ I was naked at the time.”) Diller also managed to be hilarious without ever being mean to anyone. Naturally, the media virtually ignore her death just a few years ago.

Today’s talking heads and most comedians are all in favor of political correctness with a partisan slant, hence the clear and present bias over at Comedy Central. They are telling us for the moment how funny and courageous Joan Rivers was to ignore their warnings, but Rivers’ aspiring successors, if she has any, will be run out of the business…by Joan’s post mortem admirers.

The answer, henceforth, to Rivers’ trademark line, “Can we talk?” will be “No.”

10 thoughts on “Quote of the Week: Joan Rivers

    • My personal favorite was her line “I’ve had so much plastic surgery, when I die they will donate my body to Tupperware.”

  1. She may have written that joke for Diller- she wrote for a few at times, including her. I thought she was funny sometimes, but even when she wasn’t, she was, I think, blazing a trail.

  2. What First Amendment?

    I believe I first heard Joan Rivers use the self-deprecating line, which I assumed at the time was a put-down of her own looks from childbirth (complete with humor-enhancing gestures, as if laboring in a kitchen):
    “When I was born, the doctor said, ‘Put this one back! She’s not done yet!’”

    I believe that was her original. It was one of the few lines in her routines that made me laugh. But even though I rarely laughed in response to her performances (unlike how I almost always laughed when Phyllis Diller, Lucille Ball or Carol Burnett performed), I felt consistently a positive vibe about Joan Rivers. It was an appreciation for her work, her struggle, and appreciation for whatever “edge” she was pushing at any one time, even if she was not succeeding in making me laugh. I guess I just under-valued her talent.

    God, I miss Looney Tunes. If I could spit a few words of contempt into the face of one of today’s censorious, arrogant, tyrannical ostensible “guardians of sensitivity,” they would be in honor of Bugs Bunny: “What a Maroon. What an Embezzle.”

  3. Joan, while she never made me laugh, either, was as in-your-face as they get. Would have loved to see her and Rickles on the same stage…would have been verbal mayhem.

  4. I don’t think she was either a trailblazer or particularly funny, but she sure beats the hell out of Sarah Silverman. The general trend always seems to go down when dealing with “edgy.” After a while it just becomes unsustainable. As if there is no more funny there and all that’s left is mean and vicious.
    That said, I don’t think the current crop of puritans should draw the line any more that the old crop of puritans should have drawn it. But the line is there however insubstantial (maybe everyone has their own) and I couldn’t watch Joan Rivers in the past few years without feeling slightly embarrassed for her. I do think she was one of the hardest working celebrities though. You have to admire her stamina.

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