Morning Ethics Warm-Up, 6/3/2020: Rationalizations #1 And #64

Well, maybe the Nicholas Brothers will cheer me up….

I wrote about Fayard and Harold here. Talk about victims of systemic racism: the only reason these guys aren’t as famous as Fred Astaire and Gene Kelly is that Hollywood wouldn’t let them be. Justice would be making sure every single American kid sees this routine before they are 18.

1. Of course rioting is domestic terrorism. What else would you call it? It’s calculated violence against innocent citizens to promote fear and to advance a political objective. That’s terrorism.

If the truth hurts, tough. Boy, Rationalization #64. Yoo’s Rationalization or “It isn’t what it is” has had a work-out this year!

2. New York Times priorities: Here’s the top front page headline in the Times today: “How Trump’s Idea For Photo Op led To Havoc in the Park.”  Riots, looting, attacks on police and deaths from the George Floyd riots, and that’s the story the Times believes should be first today. Nah, there’s no mainstream media bias.

3. Oh, no, not the “All lives matter” nonsense again! Yes, again.  this time, it led to the cancellation of the NBA’s Sacramento Kings play-by-play announcer since 1988, Grant Napear,  who was fired  yesterday after tweeting, “ALL LIVES MATTER…EVERY SINGLE ONE!!!”

The Horror. He was set up: former Kings star DeMarcus Cousins,  asked him for his “take on BLM.” This is why public figures, especially those of limited intellectual capacity, should stay off Twitter (and now we have the added reason that the platform is a censorious manipulator of public discourse for partisan gain.)

The radio station that employed Napear on his namesake show, said “the timing of Grant’s tweet was particularly insensitive,” as it dumped him as well. Napear groveled an apology, saying he was “not as educated on BLM as I thought. I had no idea that when I said ‘All Lives Matter’ that it was counter to what BLM is trying to get across.”

Here’s what Black Lives Matter is “trying to get across,” and has been from the beginning: its name asserts that black lives don’t matter to white Americans. That message is false and racist, just like  the organization itself. If all lives matter, then police brutality against blacks is exactly as wrong and outrageous, but that’s not what BLM is aiming at. Its mission is to advance the false narrative of the United States as a white supremacy culture with its demographic majority hostile to African Americans, and its law enforcement a tool of that hostility.

Grant Napear should have been able to respond to the attacks on his tweet with that fact. That he didn’t shows that he was foolish to engage in the topic at all, since he was ill-equipped to debate it.

If he had read the Ethics Alarms rationalizations list, he could have used #64.

4. Gee, why isn’t the U.S. like other developed countries? Jonathan Turley reports that three British teenagers have been arrested for a Snapchat video mocking the death of George Floyd. As usual with these posts, Turley feels it necessary to explain why freedom of speech is important. That depresses me almost as much as the news item itself.

This is the mains reason I see little reason to pay attention to criticism of the U.S. from abroad. These cultures are not like ours; they do not have the same respect for individual liberties, nor the same ethical values.  American politicians and pundits who use the “Why aren’t we like Great Britain/France/Australia/Canada/Denmark?” argument to advance various policy measures disqualify themselves by that very question, which relies on Rationalzation #1, “Everybody Does It,” the hoariest rationalization of them all.

 

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            • Alizia Tyler wrote, “Do you tapdance Steve?”

              Yes I do; in fact I’ve been a featured tap dancer in a few area theatrical productions. The most fun tap dancing routine was in I’ve Got Rhythm in Gershwin’s Crazy for You, I love the pan dance part, the whole thing looks a lot like this…

              It’s not at all likely that I could tap at that level anymore.

              P.S. I also built the limousine that was driven on and off stage for that show and it’s quite likely that that is still being used in productions of that show throughout the Midwest, I built a few unique theatrical set pieces that are traveling around the midwest.

        • Amen to that. I’ve seen this clip at least a dozen times and it always a) delights me and b) blows my mind. The sheer physical strength required to rise up from a split with their hands over they heads? Those guys weren’t just great dancers. They were absolutely PHENOMENAL athletes!

          • They were also small, compact and light. If Gene Kelly tried that move, he might have been in the hospital for a month. It should come as no surprise that both brothers had hip problems later in life.

            One reason I can’t watch “The Pirate,” the only big budget MGM film that used the brothers, is that it makes me mad. They are stuck playing subordinate to Kelly, and never allowed to show their stuff.

            The other reason is that “The Pirate” stinks….

    • In the mid-‘sixties, our dad took my brother and me to see the Globetrotters do their thing to the Washington Generals in the Miami Beach Convention Center, then the only fairly large basketball venue in Miami. Cab Calloway was the half time show. He did “Minnie the Moocher.” I had no idea whatsoever to make of Cab or who he was. And by the way, the Washington Generals (all white guys) did their part and were, of course, clobbered to the point of humiliation by Meadowlark Lemon and the rest of the all black Globetrotters, and the all white crowd went home happy.

  1. Here’s what Black Lives Matter is “trying to get across,” and has been from the beginning: its name asserts that black lives don’t matter to white Americans. That message is false and racist, just like the organization itself. If all lives matter, then police brutality against blacks is exactly as wrong and outrageous, but that’s not what BLM is aiming at. Its mission is to advance the false narrative of the United States as a white supremacy culture with its demographic majority hostile to African Americans, and its law enforcement a tool of that hostility.

    I would say that black lives to white Americans are irrelevant. That is to say that Whites only have reason to think about black lives when Blacks create problems as a result of their difficult cultural situation, or when they advocate for full inclusivity. The problem revolves essentially around the issue of inclusivity, but is as real of a problem as it would be in any social situation where two distinct peoples are forced into interaction.

    What BLM ‘seeks to get across’ is a very different interpretation of their own situation, and this interpretation, by its very nature, gets right in the face of white America.

    I am inclined to allow Black people to define their own situation:

    In her book White Rage (which became very popular some years back and, it must be stated, is the sort of view of Black struggle that informs the intellectual circles of the NYTs et cetera) Carol Anderson wrote:

    “The trigger for white rage, inevitably, is black advancement. It is not the mere presence of black people that is the problem; rather, it is blackness with ambition, with drive, with purpose, with aspirations, and with demands for full and equal citizenship. It is blackness that refuses to accept subjugation, to give up. A formidable array of policy assaults and legal contortions has consistently punished black resilience, black resolve.”

    What that means, as I interpret it, is Black advancement according to their own design and their own lights. That is, in their style, in their way. This has to do with a recovery of a Black ‘ancestral spirit’ (as one Black activist put it) and this means a way that is unalike the white, European way. You can easily discern this *energy* or this *will* in dozens of different areas. But it is quite strong among the rising university-educated class. I noticed it very strongly watching Obama’s Howard University speech quite recently.

    The integration of Blacks into white culture is quite different, in comparison, from the integration of other minorities it seems to me, simply given all the differences in situation. American Blacks are a distinct people with their own will. And that will and *ambition* does not combine with that of white culture.

    These are simply facts that have to be faced.

    I want as close to nothing to do with Blacks-as-Blacks in this ‘ancestral spirit’ sense as possible myself. This I am very clear about. And there are other people who see things just like I do. I want European categories to dominate. My preference would be to libve in a culture where I do not have to be concerned about Black struggle and their (legitimate) achieving of their own social and cultural destiny, Am I wrong to want this? Am I morally wrong to want this?

    Again, I assert that *you-plural* (excuse me!) are strangely mystified. You look but you don’t see. Or when you see it is partial seeing.

    It is simply a fully incorrect statement to say that the US was not a *white supremacist* country and culture! It most certainly was! In fact it was exactly that that defined it. It was only relatively recently that the *definition* changed. And now . . . you will have to live in the consequences of those choices. And that involves various levels of ‘displacement’. It involves everything we see happening today.

    It is so weird that you-plural seem not to see and understand this!

    • Alizia. The War on Poverty was commenced about sixty-five years ago and segregation was made illegal about the same time. Trillions of dollars and three generations later, the black underclass continues to defy every effort made to mitigate its problems. See eg., the now sainted George Floyd. The continued flailing of the black underclass has driven intellectuals and policy people nuts. “Its not their fault! They can’t play the game the way it’s set out, so change the rules, change the game!” It’s pretty obvious.

      Thriving in the United States is possible but it’s not completely easy either. In a perfect world, everyone could grow up to be a managing partner at Goldman Sachs, but it’s just not going to happen. But the genius of the U.S. is the guys at the top let enough crumbs fall off the table so even a schmo like me, in combination with the incomparable Mrs. OB, can raise two kids and amass a modest estate of 2020 inflated dollars. If you want it bad enough, you can have a very decent life here. But you have to want it and not expect very many people to be of much assistance. Some will, and you need a good family, but you’ve got to simply focus and grind away. I’ll take the U.S. over any Central or South American country where it’s winner take all. Any day.

      If America’s a racist gulag, someone better start telling all the Mexican and Central American and African and Caribbean people who want to come here to just stay were they are.

      • Princess, priestess, and prophetess, Cassandra of Troy lived under a terrible curse; she could see the future and had to speak the truth, but no one would ever believe her.

        What I say (apparently) is not what you think I am saying. The things I point to are *terrible truths* that you and we will have to live through. We are now living through them. They are not going to ‘improve’ they are going to get worse — at least from your-plural perspective.

        • Can you, omniscient Alizia? Please do tell the rest of us! And if you would be so kind, please do it in 5, bulleted line items. (Oh heck, take 10). That’s line items, dear, not paragraphs. Enlighten the rest of us but do keep it short. Some of us are too stupid to come up with ideas of our own and couldn’t possibly keep up with your self proclaimed insight into all things Americana.

          Seriously, you buzz around here like a mosquito with Asperger’s.

    • This puzzles me. In an open society such as ours people are pretty much allowed to identify their own version of success and go after it. If your idea of success is being true to a society that does not exist here and is not held in esteem by others here, then your success might not be what you think it is, especially if your success does not provide for the basic necessities of life.

      Why do people at a young age defy all advice from more experienced people around them and drop out of high school and then spend the rest of their lives bitching because they cannot get a decent job. In a society where “common working people” like plumbers, carpenters, truck drivers, and such can earn enough to own homes, have multiple vehicles, take vacations and maybe even own a bass-boat. That is only one example. Of course the non-achievers always blame someone else for their troubles.

      The idea that white people think black people’s success is a danger to them is someone’s pipe dream. I submit Herman Cain, Colin Powell, Conlileeza Rice, even Barack Obama, as examples otherwise. This is not an exhaustive list I might add. Yes you have to adopt the rules of the “game” you wish to play… you don’t get to decide which to follow and which to break. Most of us learn this early in life. And many people who are successful, of all hues, did not get there on the first attempt.

      As Other Bill says, its not easy.

      • Might it be because you are not understanding the full nature of *their* struggle? Their object? It would seem that you are using your own measuring stick, one that you apply to *them*. But my impression is that in many cases, perhaps in a general case, *they* simply do not want to play the game (as it were) that you establish, value and hold to.

        The idea that white people think black people’s success is a danger to them is someone’s pipe dream.

        Fair enough. Then if what you say is true that narrative has another function, and that function must be seen, understood and then some decision made about it. I am not closed to doing that, but it means directly opposing an entire structure of view and of *narrative* (though like anyone I am getting tired of that term!).

        I do not either agree or disagree with what the woman is saying. I rather think it is wise to separate out of it an intentionality: a purpose.

        I see these struggles not so much as rational and logical, but having links of ressentiment in the Nietzschean sense. Getting ahead is also *getting even*. There are strong currents of retribution expressed. Another aspect of ressentiment is psychological: to be reminded, day in and day out, of all that you cannot be and perhaps do not wish to be.

        Ressentiment is a reassignment of the pain that accompanies a sense of one’s own inferiority/failure onto an external scapegoat. The ego creates the illusion of an enemy, a cause that can be “blamed” for one’s own inferiority/failure. Thus, one was thwarted not by a failure in oneself, but rather by an external “evil.”

        My view is that this is not going to work out. I don’t know how it will happen, and I certainly do not know even if it will happen, but the best-case scenario would be, and might have to be, some sort of political separation. I know, it seems inconceivable. But even if this is unlikely/impossible in the US (though history is long indeed and stranger things have happened) at the least *we* can try to help others to avoid this horrible fate the US seems destined for.

        • If what you say is true, that the fundamental issue is “ressentiment”, and the definition used in your post is accurate, then that would mean that the grievance is illusory or imagined. No one can control the thoughts and feelings of others. If ressentiment is an assignment of blame for one’s frustrations or failures, then there is no system of law, justice, politics, or social structure that can redress or soothe that frustration. Separation, reparations, apartheid, segregation, whatever name assigned to the perceived solution will never be satisfactory. There will never be a “just” settlement or a final decree. Society will simply lurch from one crisis to the next in a pointless, endless cycle.

          jvb

          Ed. Note: I wanted to formulate an idea bouncing around in my Dr. Pepper-and-LEGO-deprived brain: Is there such a thing as “cultural” or “societal” ressentiment? I am going to have to think about for a while because you use “ressentiment” quite often. See? I am willing to do the hard work and think the thoughts that can’t be thought.

          jvb

          • If what you say is true, that the fundamental issue is “ressentiment”, and the definition used in your post is accurate, then that would mean that the grievance is illusory or imagined. No one can control the thoughts and feelings of others. If ressentiment is an assignment of blame for one’s frustrations or failures, then there is no system of law, justice, politics, or social structure that can redress or soothe that frustration. Separation, reparations, apartheid, segregation, whatever name assigned to the perceived solution will never be satisfactory. There will never be a “just” settlement or a final decree. Society will simply lurch from one crisis to the next in a pointless, endless cycle.

            I would not say illusory or imagined. I would say discovered, cultivated and accented. Ressentiment is based in a desire for revenge. But the one who desired revenge cannot allow the revenge-sentiment to be honest and open. He and she cannot face it straight on. So it takes devious forms. The subject of Christian ressentiment desires that God punish the sinner — the one who abused power, the one who did harm and benefitted from the harm done, and who does not appear to be suffering from it. That is the reason for a compounded anger against colonialism and also slavery. Ressentiment is a universal emotion in our day.

            It is also part of a power-game. “You, come here now. Kneel before me and beg forgiveness!” But in reality the one who plays that game wants to reverse the roles but cannot face that truth.

            How this particular juncture in American culture and politics gets resolved . . . is anyone’s guess. On the Dissident Right — as you might have imagined — there is a recognition of a need for separation: cultural divorce. But realistically how could that come to pass in America today?

            I am willing to do the hard work and think the thoughts that can’t be thought.

            You certainly deserve a cookie! 🙂

  2. 2. I read the NY Times article. Garbage. Police pushed people and shouted at them. A few people got hit with billy clubs. Some people in the crowd believed that “some sort of chemical irritant” was used, although tear gas was not. According to the NYT, this is fascism — one of the darkest and most shocking events in the history of our country. The protesters were all peaceful. Not a word about anything like this:

    https://www.npr.org/2020/06/01/866540213/protesters-set-fire-to-vehicles-buildings-near-white-house

    • My God! NPR’s gone to the dark side! Has that article been taken down yet? They’ve morphed into FOX! Defund NPR! They’re racist!

  3. The following showed up in my Facebook feed today (immediately after I finished “snoozing” about a dozen people whose relentless TDS and failure to recognize what’s going on for what it is – I really like all of them, but they’ve collectively gone nuts).

    The author is an acquaintance in Maine. Really smart; US Naval Academy grad, former Naval Aviator. A genuinely nice and thoughtful guy, predominately conservative in his views. Wise, too – he predicted civil unrest would be a likely outcome of the shutdowns about two months ago (he made some other predictions I sure as hell hope he was wrong about). This gave me some insight I previously lacked, so I thought I’d share it here. His words, not mine, follow,
    **********************************

    We have seen violence, and many cannot understand what would motivate people to burn down their cities. Lawless. Thugs. Riots. While it is impossible to justify the destruction, it is easy to understand the anger. It is not just about George Floyd, or the other black men killed at the hands of police. The rage is a result of many years of government oppression. And it has happened in my lifetime.

    The most important and effective piece of legislation ever passed with the Servicemen’s Readjustment Act of 1944 – the GI Bill. The original bill provided education and loan guarantees for homes, farms, or businesses. It was wildly successful. By 1956, when the original bill expired, 8 million WWII Veterans had received education (mostly college) and 4.3 million home loans worth $33 billion ($311 Billion in 2020) had been distributed.

    This program effectively started the middle class in the United States and created trillions of dollars in wealth over time. But not every Veteran who earned those benefits were given the opportunity to use them. That’s right, institutional racism prevented more than 1.2 million black WWII Veterans from receiving the benefits. This racially based denial of rightful reward for service to the country would go on to be the root of our current racial challenges.
    In 1947, 3200 VA loans were processed in Mississippi, and only 2 went to black Vets. That same year in NY and NJ, only 100 of the more than 67,000 VA loans went to blacks.

    In the 76 years since the original GI Bill passed, we have seen American’s wealth grow exponentially. Investment from that GI Bill, in both education and housing has compounded. White communities have benefited, and many small businesses were created out of this wealth generation machine. But Black communities were left out. Generations of white Americans have gone to college as it became the norm in those families. The family tradition of attending college has largely not taken root in Black America.

    Now imagine your great grandfather was a WWII GI and you live in the inner city. He came back from the war to no job. His educational benefits were useless because white colleges would not accept him. His VA loan guaranty was useless because white financial institutions would not loan to blacks.
    Compare that to the 8 million white Veterans who used their educational benefits and the 4.3 million who bought houses and farms and businesses with their VA guaranteed loans. The neighborhoods and businesses that sprang up all combine to create a white America that is very different from the inner cities and poor areas where most of Black America live.

    You want to understand the depth of rage? You want to know why so many of our black countrymen are angry? Try having a whole race of people institutionally denied the benefits they had earned, and 75 years of a growing wealth gap as a result. You would be angry too. You should be now.

    • You want to understand the depth of rage? You want to know why so many of our black countrymen are angry? Try having a whole race of people institutionally denied the benefits they had earned, and 75 years of a growing wealth gap as a result. You would be angry too. You should be now.

      so why do they keep voting for officials that perpetuate “systemic racism”.

      • An entirely fair question, Michael. One presumes that lacking family wealth and being dependent upon the state, the choice is made to keep taking the handouts.

        • My longtime Usenet ally, Christopher Charles Morton, explains it.

          http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/chicago-three-big-reasons-why-murder-city-usa-is-so-unsafe/#comment-2836333

          I’ll give you three reasons, having lived there until I joined the Army:
          1. The city “government” is as corrupt as any you’ll find in the third world. Members of the city council are in bed with the major gangs.
          2. The police department is as corrupt as the “government”, considering itself wholly outside the law. Until relatively recently, there was a home invasion, burglary and kidnapping ring operating INSIDE the most “elite” unit in the department.
          3. The population obviously LIKES these things, since they’ve been voting for them since before my grandmother moved there from Nashville… BEFORE WWI.

          Black Chicagoans elected and reelected Richard M. Daley for something like twenty+ years, DESPITE the fact that he profited politically from an organized torture ring operating INSIDE the Chicago PD. Most of the known victims of said ring were NOT Norwegian…

          Chicago is what it is because the Chicagoans WANT it that way. Sucks to be them.

  4. #3 Black Lives Matter vs All Lives Matter? Black Lives Matters “…mission is to advance the false narrative of the United States as a white supremacy culture with its demographic majority hostile to African Americans, and its law enforcement a tool of that hostility”, that’s only a piece of it, there’s more. I think these activists are racists trying to project their own racism on those they hate because of their race.

    Below is what we are faced with in the Madison, WI area. Pay close attention to the language used in this propaganda tirade.

    Did you get that, they are publicly advocating to “release all incarcerated Black people from jail” and they emphasized the word “Black” throughout their tirade.

    When you’re a racist, everything is about race.

    Guess who provides most of the funds for these organizations, the tax payers across the United States. School Districts, Cities, Counties, States and the Federal government pour ten of thousands of dollars taxpayer dollars, in some cases it’s hundreds of thousands of dollars a year, directly into racists organizations like these via grants and direct funding for “services”. These people are gaining political power in our school districts and our government, if you oppose or question them in any way they immediately smear you a being the racist. To be sure not all black people are falling down this absurd rabbit hole but this racist poison in the black community is growing.

    Final point; can you imagine the public outcry if there was a group of white people that was literally being paid by the government to advocate to “release all incarcerated White people from jail”?

          • johnburger2013 wrote, “What is “Radical Traditional Catholicism”? Is it people who reject Vatican II? Who knew? Oh, and what is “Hate Music”” There’s a lot of music I hate but . . .”

            You’ll have to direct those kind of questions to the people that made the graph.

          • You are not aware of what radical traditional Catholicism is? It is new information for you that there is a movement against the processes that were put in motion through Vatican ll? I do not think they reject all of Vatican ll (it is a complex thing) but they notice that it has led to ‘the destruction of the Christian tradition’ to an unprecedented scale.

            This is another aspect of my critique of many of you0plural fine people: you are not conversant in what is going on. You don’t care! I hold *you-plural* as a class responsible for allowing many different things to occur. You must be held to account.

            That is an ethical statement. It is based in a sense of good and proper (necessary) ethics.

            Here is a link to an interview of E Michael Jones on ‘The Black Jewish Alliance’. E Michael Jones is in some ways part of the Radical Traditional Catholic movement, though this is not really his focus (the restoration of the Catholic liturgy or the metaphysical structure of Catholicism). He is much more involved in pointed cultural criticism. And this is why Radical Traditional Catholicism is problematic for the SPLC (et cetera).

            FE Michael Jones on the Black-Jewish alliance

            • Once again, Alizia, WordPress is not a great forum for sarcasm or irony. Either that or I am just not as clever as I think I am. I hardly think that rejecting Vatican II is tantamount to hate. That is the kind of stupidity that makes the SPLC look foolish and immature.

              jvb

              • Oh man, this is so frustrating! The radical Catholic position takes very strong positions against Jewish influence in American culture. If you understood this your jaw would likely drop to the ground. There has always been, and there still is, a battle between Catholicism (Christianity in essence) and Jewishness and Jewish influence. Because I study these things, I know what these are. That is what is ‘radical’ in Radical Traditional Catholicism and that is why they are someone’s list. RTC also takes very definite positions on other topics (you know what they are) and in this sense runs against the current of time, which is another current going in another direction. We are now entering, with a great deal more force, into a far more open level of battle. The riots on the streets and the messages they bring to your ears is just one aspect. It will get far far worse. I would encourage you to pay attention.

                • Don’t fret, Alizia.

                  I do get that there is a “radical” element in Catholicism, just as there is a radical element in just every human institution. Just because a Catholic may reject tenets of Vatican II doesn’t mean that that person identifies with Radical Catholicism. It is not a mutually exclusive dichotomy. Recently changes were made to the Mass, most specifically to the Apostle’s Creed, changing it from “We believe . . .” to “I believe . . .” (among others) as a result of modern interpretation of Latin translation. That irks me because Catholic tradition has long held that GodChrist/el Espíritu Santo reveals himself to the community of believers. However, that and other changes don’t make me want to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

                  jvb.

      • RATS, I forgot the bar graph title!

        That vertical bar graph above should be titled…

        Number of people shot to death by the police in the United States from 2017 to 2020, by race

        The filename of the photo also says that.

  5. Alicia Klien writes:

    Waiting for 5 bulleted points; take 10 if you need. Not looking for a dissertation; just a clear, concise list of everything we (as America) are getting wrong and how, in your infinite wisdom, we can correct the error of our ways and move forward. It’s shouldn’t be hard, Alizia. I have faith in you.

    I seem to have both satisfied your request, and also disobeyed in substantial ways! Here, in just a couple of minutes, I offer my answer to your request for: A “concise list of everything we (as America) are getting wrong and how, in your infinite wisdom, we can correct the error of our ways and move forward.”

    1) Incapacity to recognize the extent of Marxist activism in your own attitudes. That your general *liberal notions* about culture and society have been determined by Marxist-Communist activists which began quite a while back (the 20s) but which culminated in the Sixties. We refer to this as Cultural Marxism, yet this does require some explanation. So, one of my primary observations is that *you do not know your selves*. You are confused & mystified people. Because I say this openly, but always in a friendly spirit, you are forced to strike out against me, as if I am the problem. But I am not the problem — according to my analysis — you are the problem. That is, your ignorance of your own condition and situation is the problem that America faces now. We know that the Left is not friendly in any sense to conservatist values, and we know that they work, often blindly and unconsciously, to undermine important hierarchical structures, but I assert that the larger and more important enemy is not the Left but rather the American *conservative* Right. That is a sharp accusation. It tends to rile people.

    2) Essential collusion with the general narrative of ‘anti-whiteness’. Meaning, that you-plural have no identity that you can base your self in and on. Your own identity seems to be as only an American. And you imagine, erroneously, that this is enough of an identity to construct a nation with. You have come under the power of a movement, an ideology, that substracts from you a sane and necessary identity in what I call European categories. You are a neutered and a weakened people to the degree that you have bought into these debilitating ideas. I suggest that you *get out from under* the moral force of the people and groups that spin these weakening stories and re-identify with ones that can make you strong.

    3) You do not understand, in any realistic or historical sense, the real dynamic of power in your own country. You refuse to understand the degree to which your country, especially in the Postwar, has been molded by *social engineering forces* and the degree to which these have been intelligence/military. You will not, and you cannot, examine these issues and questions and you seem to hold to what I call a *false-patriotism* and to use this as a shield from a more depth analysis. So, you cannot examine and do not understand how forces acting now in our immediate present are manipulating you (all of us). These ‘machinations’ as I call them seem to have begun in earnest around the time of 9/11. I assert that it is crucial to understanding to grasp this, and I refer to sources where this understanding can be enhanced. This too does not *win me friends* here. I have made many references over the years as to why this is.

    4) Events careen forward and events accelerate. It is not *getting better* it is getting far worse. And everything I have pointed to over the last 6 years is now *coming to fruition*. But still there are some veeeerrrryyyyyy stubborn individuals, with stubborn minds, stuck in former and now non-useful points-of-view (interpretations) of America and Americanism that won’t relinquish their *illusions*. This is painful material no doubt. And pushing on this also does not win me friends.

    5) My other general area of critique is Christian and metaphysical. I assert that we have — in the larger senses — become weakened because we renounce our faith, and because we misunderstand and fail in our responsibility. The first order of business is, according to my view, the reconstruction of the self on *proper metaphysical foundations*. This is a demanding element in a larger process of renewal. I think that getting to the heart of this issue also tends to upset people, perhaps some people who write here? I think that to *recover Europe* (and America is a part of Europe in essence) we need to rediscover and redefine the metaphysical categories.

    6) Solution? Take stock of your self in the present. Read a great deal more. Become genuinely interested. Become intellectually-oriented (in the best sense, not as this is normally interpreted as something bad or abstract). Resist indoctrination and the control of cultural managers. See behind the *curtain*. Think, especially in your case as one of the more mindless females writing on this blog! think! Express! Work with others in creative and positive ways.

    I’ve done my part. Now please do your part. Respond. Critique. Correct.

    • You didn’t respond to my comment but to Steve’s.

      This post is a response to your request. I do not think or write in ‘bullets’. But here is the main thrust of my criticism of a plurality. I did what you asked for and I did it in good faith.

      Now I hope that you will respond in detail.

  6. You didn’t respond to my comment but to Steve’s. And then called me brainless. I also see you decided to include my last name (albeit spelled incorrectly). My last name is not immediately public. Doing some poking around?

      • I didn’t want to hide behind it; or give the appearance of hiding. I had always used my name here until the whole #metoo thing started. I shared my experience with sexual abuse on this site but as my children did not know at the time (and still don’t) I decided to change my screen name. I recently figured that enough time had gone by and opted to change back. “La Sylphide”, by the way, is one of the oldest surviving ballets. Having been classically trained in dance, I find the idea of the oldest ballet “enchanting”. 🙂

        • Thanks for the information and I didn’t mean to pry. I was just wondering. WordPress somehow linked my dog’s photo to my profile. I don’t know how or why they did that. I can barely remember the password on the account.

    • What are you talking about? The comment above is directed to you.

      Now, you asked for something, I gave you what you asked for. Shouldn’t this be the point where you respond?

      Also, you first signed on here as Alicia Klein, so you made your own name public. I got used to La Sylphide. Why the change?

        • Is this or is this not your comment?

          Can you, omniscient Alizia? Please do tell the rest of us! And if you would be so kind, please do it in 5, bulleted line items. (Oh heck, take 10). That’s line items, dear, not paragraphs. Enlighten the rest of us but do keep it short. Some of us are too stupid to come up with ideas of our own and couldn’t possibly keep up with your self proclaimed insight into all things Americana.

          Seriously, you buzz around here like a mosquito with Asperger’s.

          What is the purpose of this game Alicia?

          • With all of your infinite wisdom of what it is to be an American and live in America, what I hoped for was:

            America has done this. America needs to do instead….

            What I got was more of your pseudo intellectual woo-woo.

            You seem awfully anxious about the fact that no one here is taking your 6 years of ranting seriously; as if the earth’s axis rests on your every “unseen, unheard, mis-understood brilliant offering that no one else is paying proper attention to but were they to it would be the answer to all of the universe’s ills.”

            Yes, you are like a mosquito with Asperger’s: buzzing around here, repeating the same thing over, and over, and over again, typing furiously on a keyboard, with a complete inability to read the room, becoming more indignant (which results in condescension) when people don’t respond the way you want them to.

            You may right. I could very well be brainless. I’m certainly aware that what is offered here is way above what I’m capable of offering in return (which you seem to take glee in pointing out). But I’m incredibly thankful for this site; and I have written Jack privately to tell him so. I learn a lot here. I’m interested in the thoughts of others – the one’s who know how to read the room.

            Continue buzzing around, Alizia. And good luck.

            • Trust me! You really are brainless. But I still more or less like you. 🙂 If you take what I say — all of it — personally you will make a mistake. I am not interested in personal battles. I am interested in the larger picture.

              You seem awfully anxious about the fact that no one here is taking your 6 years of ranting seriously.

              I am more anxious that my mere presence, and some of the things I say, could do harm to Jack. If anything makes me worry it is that. How many people have read what I write, or the links I sometimes present, and then associated you-plural with those ideas.

              I fully understand that you-as-a-people have been really and tragically dumbed-down. And I can point you in the direction of ways that you can begin to smarten up.

              If you do not believe me now, today, then pay attention to what is coming next for you (in your nation) and then think more about the things I say and suggest.

              Don’t take this from the standpoint of your ego (all your comments to me are ego-centric) and try to see it in a more abstract light.

              I do not really believe that you mean me well. Nevertheless I genuinely mean you well and desire only the best for you on all levels.

              • Please do teach an entire dumbed down nation how to smarten up; all by yourself.

                I don’t believe Jack is worried about your presence on his site; but I do not speak for him. I do find it charming that you think so; however.

                Mean you well? I certainly don’t mean you ill will. You are not important enough. And with that, we are done here.

                • You should have been done before you ever began! All of this has been entirely vain on your part. I silly rehearsal with no value.

                  And you really are more stupid than merely brainless. You don’t get it, do you? The ideas that I express here, whether well or badly, can get people’s lives destroyed. Monetary and professional harm. Getting fired from their jobs. Demonitization.

                  Wake up you idiot!

                  • Your ideas can get lives destroyed? Monetary and professional harm? Demonization? You are delusional, my little psychopath, and watching you implode has been entertaining indeed.

                    • Sorry, Jack. Posted my comment 2 minutes after yours. Didn’t see it while I was typing.

                    • Pesky time stamps, eh? 🙂

                      Most esteemed Alicia:

                      Despite the acrimonious nature of your recent rehearsal (I do not know what to call it because I do not think you have a clear consciousness of what you actually intended), it is important not to allow such a strange emotional display to obscure the importance of talking about the strange and dangerous things going on.

                      In respect to demonitization, banning, doxxing:

                      I gather that you are unaware that dozens of different commentators, alternative news sources, controversial persons with controversial ideas and opinions have been banned from YouTube and other platforms, demonitized (their YouTube channels cannot earn money through sponsorships and through getting donations from listeners/watchers), and for those who are more notorious (for example RedIce Radio — a longstanding alternative media company with millions of viewers) not only have they been banned from YouTube but the companies that provide credit card processing services stopped offering their services. Meaning that their sources of income dry up. This is just one example. There are dozens of cases. Counter-Currents is another. And there have been thousands of incidents like this among more minor commentators.

                      My theory in regard to Jack’s issues with FaceBook stem from the conflict that California Chris had with Jack and the ideas that are expressed on this blog, which he regarded as morally reprehensible. Though no one on this blog, and certainly not Jack, share some of my more controversial views, nevertheless simply because I am allowed to participate here — to post my views, to post links to websites that are seen as morally wrong and even ‘evil’ — the way the game of social politics is played today is that if you allow that, you are responsible for it. If you do not fire an offender who has been described as committing some social evil, then you will be seen as complicit. Obviously, this has to do with the use of coercion to control opinion and idea. There are battles going on — now, today — that have to do with these forms of censorship. Just recently an article was put up here in with Turley speaks about the First Amendment issue in relation to America by comparing our speech freedoms with those of Europe.

                      Now, my theory is that Chris took steps to register complaints against Ethics Alarms because, well, this is what activists of his sort do. They feel that they have the moral right to shut down their enemies.

                      Now, I have called you *brainless* but I have defined what this means. It is not an insult but a genuine and honest — an idea-based — description of failures that I notice in you. But not only you-singular but in many people. I refer to the cause of this as *mystification*.

                      I hope that you will mull over your recent rehearsal and try to see that it has a function. A function within a group dynamic, and one that (even) operates here among the commentariat on this blog. You had no intention of dealing with ideas. You very simply wanted to create a fracas so that — and these are your words — to provoke an *implosion* as you call it. This is 100% unethical, of course, but I do not oppose you acting out in this way. Because it reveals the degree that you are *complicit* in the general underhanded tactics that are used today by unethical people. Or, to put it another way, by people who assume they have special ethical right.

                      You assume, because some here (even Jack occasionally) oppose some of my ideas that you are given a green light to attack me and cause the *implosion* that you delight in. (You and Jack both opined that I must certainly believe that Blacks are *inferior* to Whites through some sort of deductive process you have engaged in, yet this is not how I frame *difference*)

                      This shows how *mob psychology* works. You concocted this ridiculous theatrical presentation where you demanded that I create a bulleted list for you. You do this by using a ‘we’. “Tell us what is wrong with us and do it right now!” You did this imagining that you serve the purposes of those you imagine oppose me or see me/desire to frame me as ridiculous, invalid, unworthy or even — as you also stated — as delusional (implying mental imbalance).

                      You are not the first! Spartan, Adimagejim, and even through insinuation Jack himself have tried to portray me in this light. That is, to discredit me with a really obvious and rather viscious ad hominem attack.

                      What I want to draw to your attention, and to your-plural attentions, is that this is the nature of the battles that we are now in. So take Spartan who when she discovered that I would not bend or modify my view on homosexuality (my position is that it should not be encouraged but should be generally repressed) that I therefore am mentally ill and need *therapy*. If you think this through you will quickly see that taken to its extreme you will wind up with psychiatric prisons. This is not a joke (though a *brainless*, disconnected woman like yourself is not expected to be fluent with these topics, though you really should make an effort to change that). There is an entire group of *beliefs* and understandings that are now being described as ‘delusional’ ‘sick’ ‘destructive’ ‘retrograde’ ‘antisocial’ et cetera et cetera. (Note that the SPLC has placed some people with traditional Catholic beliefs on their *hate watch* list.)

                      Were you more aware of social affairs and *what is going on* you would have a better understanding of the nature of the struggles going on. What your *side* would be, who knows, but at the very least you’d have a clearer sense of the scope of the conflicts and, as I say, with the causal chains that produce *what is going on* in our present.

                      Notice that it takes time and energy to respectfully communicate ideas? This is not about ‘little you’ but about really large issues that are playing out. Avoid getting trapped by the seductions of ego and — as I always say and highly recommend — stick with the exposition of ideas.

                      And with that, we are done here.

                      You are perfect for all this! 😉

                    • I apologize that it has taken me a bit to respond. I was tending to a rather horrific emergency in my family; an event that far outweighs any bullshit brouhaha brewing (how’s that for alliteration?)on an ethics blog.

                      I will agree with you on censorship; beginning with Youtube.

                      But this: ” — and these are your words — to provoke an *implosion* as you call it.”

                      Those are not my words. Do not put word in my mouth. What I said was that watching you implode was entertaining. Suggesting that I “provoked” your implosion would be admitting that I have power over you. You and I both know that’s not true.

                    • Thank you, John. That is very kind of you. All will be well. It’s been an emotionally difficult weekend, for sure.

    • And then called me brainless.

      A brainless person — in my lexicon — means a person who does not deal in ideas. You have no ideas, no structure to your thinking, no position that you represent and defend to, and no coherent critique of any other opinion or idea expressed on these pages.

      You are wasting my time. You are playing games. I made an effort to answer the question you asked. Now it is your turn to respond *point-by-point* (as you might have said, though without bullets) to what I said to you.

      These are very important things we are dealing with. And you do not take them seriously.

      That is my definition of *brainless*.

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