So Fox News Hosts Wanted President Trump To “Stop The Jan. 6 Riot”…So What?

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Why is this news? Why is this being used as evidence of anything by the partisan kangaroo court posing as a House select committee investigating the events of January 6? Text messages by Laura Ingraham, Brian Kilmeade and Sean Hannity were read aloud by Rep. Liz Cheney during last night’s hearing. Who cares?

“According to the records, multiple Fox News hosts knew the president needed to act immediately,” Cheney said. “They texted Mark Meadows, and he has turned over those texts.” Fox News propagandists Ingraham, Hannity and Brian Kilmeade all wanted Meadows to make some kind of exhortation to the rioters. Kilmeade, who co-hosts the nauseating “Fox & Friends,” called upon Meadows e to “please get him [that is, Trump] on TV” because the riot was “destroying everything you have accomplished.” Hannity wanted Trump to “make a statement” and “ask people to leave the Capitol.” “Mark, the president needs to tell people in the Capitol to go home,” host Laura Ingraham texted Meadows. “This is hurting all of us. He is destroying his legacy.”

Well…

1. It is disturbing that Fox News personnel felt they had a direct line into the White House. That’s worth investigating.

2. However, the opinions of Fox News journalists, or any journalists, about what President Trump’s response to the rioting should be has no value whatsoever in assessing responsibility and accountability. The fact that Ingraham, Hannity and Kilmeade (and apparently Don Jr) wanted Trump to step into a riot and act as if he were controlling events or could control events is irrelevant. They aren’t experts, authorities, or, in the cases of Hannity, Kilmeade and Junior, even especially bright. So they sent texts. What is that supposed to prove?

3. It is the height of hypocrisy for Democrats (and a NeverTrumper like Cheney) to suddenly appeal to these individuals’ authority when they have consistently opposed their opinions on every other occasion.

4. This is a retroactive gotcha!, a double bind and Catch 22; nobody should be fooled or convinced by it. Trump never told his supporters to riot or try to storm the Capitol. It’s bad enough that he encouraged them to protest. However, their actions on January 6—stupid, pointless, reckless conduct that could only have one result, disgrace—were not Trump’s fault or responsibility. If he acted as though all he had to do was whistle them back like well-trained attack dogs, Democrats would have a smoking gun to maintain that he sicced them on the Capitol as part of the world’s most absurd “insurrection.” Indeed, they insist this is true anyway. but Trump was wise (for once) not to play into their hands. Meadows, then, was correct either not to deliver Ingraham et al.’s frenzied demands on the President or to advise him to treat the entreaties as they deserved to be treated…by ignoring them.

5. Did President Obama ever direct the Ferguson rioters to stand down and be peaceful? Did he make such an entreaty to the Baltimore rioters when Freddie Gray died? As an ex-President, Obama still has presumed influence in the black community: did he ever publicly deplore the George Floyd rioting and ask that it stop? Nope. Moreover, all of those violent protests were larger, of much longer duration and far more damaging than the January 6, 2021 riots. I believe, in all three cases, Obama knew that his pleas would have no effect, and thus would end up diminishing his perceived power and influence without accomplishing anything. I’m sure Trump knew this applied to him as well on January 6. He had let the metaphorical genie out of the bottle, and knew he wouldn’t be able to stuff it back in.

6. Another irony: the same people who accused Trump of being an autocrat now want to fault him for not behaving like a king or dictator. The President of the United States has no legitimate power to order citizens to do or not do anything. The United States of America was already doing what it could—badly—to end the rioting. It was literally not the President’s job.

12 thoughts on “So Fox News Hosts Wanted President Trump To “Stop The Jan. 6 Riot”…So What?

  1. It seems to me we should be asking for the texts of those responsible for Capitol security.
    If I have recall correctly, the first incursion into the Capitol occurred before Trump’s speech ended. If Don Jr. called Meadows it was because Trump could not be reached. I would expect that Don Jr. would have a direct line to dad and not need to go through an intermediary and Trump would trust his son before anyone else.
    With that said, I had not considered the appearance of control had Trump intervened.
    Was it not Pelosi and Clyburn who stated that Trump was using “stormtroopers” to protect the Federal building in Portland. And, did anyone call on those rioting in Lafayette Square, during the 3 day siege at the WhiteHouse which prompted the secret service to escort the first family to the bunker, to stand down and disperse? Or, did they simply quietly encourage them?

  2. I find it interesting the the D.C. city government is suing the Proud Boys and Oathkeepers over the Jan. 6 riots. They claim to have mustered 850 officers Capital at the ‘height of the attack’.

    I imagine that doesn’t count the Capital security officers or any US Marshals, or whatnot.

    So how, exactly, did these rioters amble into the Capital through all these police presumably trying to keep them out? The narrative I’ve heard was that security was relatively sparse, especially for a known demonstration — not that there were ‘far more than usually needed for rallies’.

    Hmmm

    • It was also fairly limited in scope. Most of the rally attendees didn’t go anywhere near the riot and many at the scene simply watched. There were, what, a couple hundred causing trouble and busting up things? It seems to me that if this isolated incident was the biggest threat to our democracy, our system isn’t long for this world.

      jvb

    • This suit is simply a copycat suit of the recent verdict against the Unite the Right for 27 million bucks. I find this tactic of using the civil courts to silence those with unpopular political opinions the beginning of our totalitarian social order. The DC AG actually stated it was to send a message of deterrence. In Charlottesville had the group (with permits) been allowed to march unimpeded by those who arrived as counter demonstrators (without permits), and had the police not channeled them into a confrontation then in all likelihood no violence would have erupted.

      Not a single suit has been filed against the race baiters, black nationalist groups or politicians of the nation who advocated mass social unrest which resulted in billions of dollars of property damage, arson, several murders and hundreds of injured police officers.

      These suits are politically motivated and should be seen as the real danger to democracy.

  3. As for the texts, I am not shocked or surprised these media personalities had and have direct communication to Meadows or any of Trump’s team. Trump has appeared on their shows as have Don Jr. and Meadows. The texts also reveal that Fox News personalities were consistent in condemning the riots as they condemned the St. George beatification ceremonies. Same for Jr. Where is the scandal?

    It’s odd that Cheney read these things, with great affectation and emoting during the of the farce that is the Jan. 6 committee hearings. I wonder why? Hmmmm . . . could 2024 be around the corner?

    jvb

  4. I believe the fact that Fox personalities were on a texting basis with close Trump aides is supposed to show that they’re not neutral “honest brokers”, but insiders in the GOP political machine. Which is supposed to validate a similar abdication of neutrality by their counterparts at CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, the NYT, WaPo, NPR, USA Today, etc.

    If there was anybody who previously believed Fox was neutral and non-partisan, I don’t know what to tell them. And “Look, see? We’re no more partisan than Fox!” Isn’t nearly the look that apologists for the mainstream media seem to think it is.

  5. I was reading a story on Meadows’ suit to block the 1/6 committees subpoenas. One of the quite interesting points about it was that he made the point that the Select Committee itself violated House rules, on two points:

    1)Apparently Select Committees are required to have 13 members — this one has 9.
    2)The Speaker is required to appoint 5 members in consultation with the Minority Leader. McCarthy submitted 5 names and Pelosi rejected them.

    So, since this is not a ‘duly authorized committee’ it does not have the power, under House rules, to issue subpoenas. Further, House rules require that subpoenas be issued after the chairman consults with the ranking Minority leader. There is no ranking minority leader since Pelosi didn’t name the 5 minority members.

    There are a lot of other points, but those were some that especially struck me.

    I hope they get slapped down in court — they are such arrogant sanctimonious jerks. It would almost be funny if it weren’t so damaging to the country. Failing that, I hope he can string out the process until January, 2023.

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