Emergency Open Forum! (Injured Ethicist Edition)

I really hate to do this, because there is a lot to write about, but I’m going to have to open up the blog to reader commentary early this week. I took a nasty fall in a (poorly lit, dangerous) hospital parking lot two days ago, and now have a bruise the approximate size of South Dakota in my sitting area, bowling ball-level swelling, and skinned fingers on both hands. In order of painfulness, I’d rank them sitting, bending over (I had to get my son to tie my shoes), getting into the car, lying down, walking and typing. Standing still isn’t too bad. Plus I’m commuting back and forth to that hospital.

I hope I can figure out a way to get out some posts—you would not believe how long this pathetic entry took and how many times I had to re-arrange the pillows.

64 thoughts on “Emergency Open Forum! (Injured Ethicist Edition)

  1. Jack, I am sorry to hear of your misfortune and I hope for a speedy and full recovery.

    People will recall that we had some discussions of ranked choice voting after the Alaska primaries and House special election. I was just reading a WSJ editorial last week (by Kim Strassel, who actually lives in Alaska) about the Alaska senatorial race. The incumbent, Lisa Murkowski, shall we say has not been the most popular senator in Republican circles.

    One of the things I found interesting was this statement: “A recent video exposed a Murkowski staffer acknowledging the successful ballot initiative in 2020 to convert Alaska to ranked-choice voting was created in part by people who “wanted Lisa to get re-elected.” And there’s no question the new system has benefited her. She would have lost a Republican primary to Ms. Tshibaka.”

    I am reminded of the comment by Arthur (I think?) about how ranked choice elections came to Maine — a similar motivation except a desire to unseat an incumbent rather than reelect one.

    There’s only one poll on Real Clear Politics — it’s from about a month ago and shows Tshibaka (the chalenger) leading by about 9 in the first round, with the two Republicans garnering 85% of the total votes. The final round is listed as a tie, which indicates that most Alaskan Democrats favor Murkowski (not a surprise).

    The Alaska House polls I’ve seen show Peltola (the Democrat who won the special election) as kind of the front runner in the general election.

    A lot of Republican voters must have supported the ranked choice ballot measure in 2020 (it passed 50.5 – 49.5%). The intraparty infighting has (and may again) cost them a House seat, although it won’t cost them a Senate seat.

  2. Well, seeing as we may be doing an open forum for a while, I just thought I’d throw this out. There’s been the usual fight over do you celebrate Columbus Day or do you celebrate indigenous peoples day or what this week. I know here in northern New Jersey it’s Columbus day except for in the city of Newark, where the mayor strives to be woker than woke. I know in the city of New York it’s going to be Columbus Day for quite a while still, because the Italian American community is pretty powerful and the parade always draws huge numbers of spectators who then eat out, buy souvenirs, and what have you. Mayor Adams may be fairly left of center, but he is not economically illiterate, and that’s why he was out there, together with the governor and several other politicians waving the tricolor alongside the Stars and stripes. Even Boston’s uber progressive mayor Michelle Wu partially reversed course from her 1-year successor who wiped Columbus Day off the calendar in favor of indigenous peoples day and basically sneered and said it paid to be the king when the people in the North end objected, and declared Monday Italian American heritage day and indigenous peoples day. Someone else here said that black politicians quickly become little Idi Amins as soon as they get into power, and it’s true. I’d also compare a lot of them to Robert Mugabe, who went from being a hero of liberation to a tyrant who boasted of his own power and greeted requests for reform with dismissal.

    I find myself thinking back to growing up in a fairly diverse half blue half white collar town in northern New Jersey. We had everyone, from conventional Protestants, to Catholics, to a few Orthodox and Jewish families. Eventually the holidays would always come around each year, and all of us would do our own thing. No one said a word when the school children sang Christmas carols, secular or religious, nor when there was a nod to Hanukkah. No one blinked when the Smiths and Joneses and Kruegers sang “Silent Night” nor looked at us Italians funny when we would eat the seven fish dishes and sing “Tu Scendi Dalle Stelle” at midnight. No one thought anything of the Levine family praying in Hebrew and putting their lit menorah in the window. No one took a second look when the Ivanov family did the Feast of the Nativity a week after most of us.

    No one ever told anyone else “you’re doing it wrong,” or “your celebration offends me, so stop it,” or “We’re going to wipe your celebration off the calendar.” That’s because the grownups in the families were grownups and respected one another, and taught us kids to respect one another. Just because we might not have agreed theologically or whatever didn’t give anyone the right to take away someone else’s freedom of speech or choice. If it was up to me, I would put both names on the same day and tell everyone in town they should take a leaf from December and choose to celebrate one, the other, both, or neither, and let everyone else do the same. No one will go that route, though because there are no political points to be scored.

    • I am in 100% agreement with you Steve. I have often wondered why we have decided to get upset about such things but I have come to the conclusion that too many see power coming from the ability to marginalize another group by claiming victim hood. That creates the incentive to keep up the animosity. This is, in my opinion, being orchestrated by globalists who know that the US can only be brought down by creating infighting among the diverse groups which are claimed to be our greatest strength.

  3. Get well soon.

    The bank closing Kayne West’s accounts over anti semantic slurs, or at least I think that’s what it was, caught my attention. On one side I don’t like banks to get involved in speech issues or to take public stances on anything, on the other I can see why they did it. Makes me wonder what else they’d close accounts for, you know, or how many were closed already.
    https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEJ23Gn9uifFQqtyvoo7-b1QqFQgEKgwIACoFCAowwGUwkAMwgO7lBQ?uo=CAUiANIBAA&hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

    • What happens to his money if he does not close the account? I suppose they just write him a cashiers check for the current balance. My problem is that how can any business disallow a person from using its services when the person simply says something that they don’t like and cannot be associated with the business.

      Will JP Morgan end business ties with Chinese businesses or firms like Nike because they exploit slave labor, or can we say that JP Morgan endorses slavery now that they have stated that they only provide banking services to firms engaging in practices or speech of which they approve?

      • All good points. Maybe they’ll close the NBA accounts? Will they decide to close other accounts based on feelings? The credit card companies did this to people in Russia. (Deserved or not, I can’t say) It seems very arbitrary. In an increasingly digital currency world, I think banks and other financial institutions need to be careful of its choices based on public speech and trendy causes. We need to be careful about the impact they potentially have on our lives as currency becomes less a possession of ours and more a tool that can be used for compliance purposes. If all you use is a card and they shut your card off, suddenly you’re in trouble.

        • It’s also all starting to savor of the “social credit score” scheme that they implemented in China. What do Alex Jones, Donald Trump, Kanye West, and Paypal have in common? Speech and opinion are starting to have real-world consequences, and the government has nothing to do with it – on the surface, at least.
          Don’t have enough woke points? Better use cash. Opinion out of line with the lockstep? Better not use most of the internet, then.
          Don’t like it? Better build your own bank. Oh, the FDIC won’t insure it because your social credit score isn’t high enough? Go complain about it on the social media site you created, but you didn’t, because section 230 can and will be weaponized against you by the established players.

          In the book of Revelation, of course the mark of the beast is something which is needed to even buy or sell anything in the marketplace. During a famine, no less. This is not the mark if the beast. But I’m getting tired of pointing out to my wife that this is another step towards a world where that notion is not absolutely unbelievable.

          Also, Jack, a speedy recovery and a restful convalescence to you! I hope you enjoy everything else in your world while on a hiatus from us here!

          • I don’t see how we aren’t getting to a point where your labor hours are tracked with 100 percent accuracy, audited and converted into digital currency on the spot. Great for “gig” jobs and careers. Can be marketed as the perfect *on the spot* free market solution for a wide range of economic needs that sidetracks the need for cash.

            • I’m sure they want to, but not everyone has “labor hours”. We farm full time. It literally is work in acres, no matter how long it takes. In fact most people here are self employed and don’t track hours. It’s ridiculous to track everyone like that. Serfdom. It’s hard enough to work through things like loans when you don’t have a W-2 to show them. But… if it happens, it would show many people they don’t actually work the extensive hours they think they do. Might humble the hubris of the American worker, although I doubt it.

      • A few years back, I read an article about how it’s fine if you want to refuse to associate with people based on ideology, but once you start trying to force others to refuse to associate with them as well, that’s when society starts to fall apart. Suddenly everyone has to choose a side, and the ordinary transactions that keep society going are not allowed.

  4. I wonder if others have noticed this. In my town, candidates are omitting their party affiliation (especially Democrats). One town over in the same legislative district, these same people are proudly boasting their Democratic affiliation.

    Statewide democratic candidates are also playing up how they “reach across the aisle” (to work with evil Nazi’s that want to steal our elections?)

    Also, our governor has the gall to complain the Republican challenger wants “cut funding to local law enforcement”.

    This is how intellectually honest people run for office.

  5. Here is a comment worth commenting about.

    https://jonathanturley.org/2022/10/13/will-muskend-twitter-as-we-know-it-i-sincerely-hope-so/comment-page-1/#comment-2230611

    Free speech should have consequences. If you say something that is provably false, and someone does what you advocate, and suffers harm, you should be held responsible. This includes taking ivermectin to prevent COVID, not taking a vaccine that reduces the spread and severity of COVID. So all those that said the vaccine is deadly, should be held accountable for every death where someone did not take the vaccine and ultimately died from COVID. Likewise taking ivermectin. If you followed such advice (provably wrong) and died from covid, hold the person that gave the advice responsible for the death.

    You want free speech but not held accountable for the harm it can cause when the statements are provably wrong.

    In 1 year twitter will be shell of what it currently is if people can say anything they want with no accountability. Just look how popular “truth social” is.

    And did you notice how JT put out the false narrative about Conservatives being targeted more? This has been proven to be wrong. But hey, JT can say anything he wants right? Free speech with no consequences. Sad, so sad.

  6. Jack, take it as easy as you can and get better as soon as possible. My wife and I just returned from doing the Western portion of Route 66. We origianally planned to go from Ontario CA to Tulsa OK, but in Amarillo TX we cut the trip short due to one of the four of us contracting Covid. Now my wife and I are both recovering from it as well. Our medico gave us Paxlovid. It is not FDA approved, but we took it anyway due to our age. So far only side effects are a strange taste in the mouth and some joint pain.

  7. [I’ll join the rest of the crowd with the well wishes and prayers. Hoping you can get up – err, sit – soon]

    On the ethics front: Tulsi Gabbard is quitting the Democratic Party.

    Thoughts? Seems like it’s time for not only here but everyone to quit it, but I wonder how much is reasoned principles and how much is the opportunity knocking at her door (given her previous comments she was not getting another Dem nomination ever again).

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