The Discovery Of The Classified Documents (Including “Nuclear Secrets”) That Joe Biden Apparently Took And Kept As VP Would Be Hilarious If It Didn’t Make My Head Explode…

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Double Standards Alert! Classified documents were found in a locked closet in an office used by Joe Biden at the Penn Biden Think Tank, formally known as Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement at the University of Pennsylvania.

The fact that there is something akin to a “think tank” named after Joe Biden is itself hilarious, as it would be hard to imagine a public figure in US history whose intellectual abilities have been so frequently exposed as lacking over such a long career, even before he began slipping into dementia. This is like having an Orson Welles Fitness Institute. Baseball fans would find the Mario Mendoza Center for Batting Science similarly risible. The George Santos Integrity Academy. It’s another parlor game! I’d include Hillary Clinton endorsing #MeToo, but that’s real.

But let’s move on to the classified documents themselves. You know this is going to be reported as a “Republicans pounce!” story, but they should pounce. President Biden was recently asked on “Sixty Minutes” about the classified documents the FBI found in former President Trump’s home and he said he thought to himself, “How anyone could be that irresponsible?” In truth, a President has a much better defense to having classified documents in his possession after he leaves office than a Vice-President, because a President can declassify them. Here was a good pounce:

The stench of double standards pervades the entire Biden Presidency and the media’s coverage of it.  Meanwhile, it is fun to watch the mainstream media hustle to minimize the damage. In this case, it perfectly explicates the rueful Ethics Alarms category,  IIPTDXTTNMIAFB (“Imagine if President Trump did X that the news media is accepting from Biden.”)

Over at “Victory Girls,” Toni Williams was in rare form. She reacted to this report by NBC News…

…by writing,

“This was only a small number and we need to prop up Joe Biden and rules don’t apply to Democrats, they’re on our side. And the fact that we hid it until after the mid-terms means nothing, you smelly Walmart shopper.” That’s their story and they are sticking to it…You know what will happen, my fellow Deplorables. Abso-freaking-lutely nothing. Biden cooperated. It was a small number. It’s old news. Move on.

And you know she’s right.

17 thoughts on “The Discovery Of The Classified Documents (Including “Nuclear Secrets”) That Joe Biden Apparently Took And Kept As VP Would Be Hilarious If It Didn’t Make My Head Explode…

  1. As I have said until I’m blue in the face, “The political left has shown its pattern of propaganda lies within their narratives so many times since 2016 that it’s beyond me why anyone would blindly accept any narrative that the political left and their lapdog media actively push?”

    Knowing the verifiable pattern of propaganda lies in the political left’s narratives; if this is what they are willingly telling us, what are the other facts that they are intentionally hiding behind their Pravda veil.

    Of course they are being completely transparent this time with this this narrative; hell no, there’s not a chance in hell that I’m gonna buy this narrative either.

    The boy who cried wolf.

  2. I mean… Outside the paradigm of partisan politics, the FBI has a fig leaf in disparate treatment because both Hillary and Biden co-operated with the FBI. It took Biden less than a week from when the documents were ostensibly discovered to report and return them. Trump dicked around for eight months and had returned portions of what he knew he had.

    I’m not saying that the fix isn’t in, I’m not saying this isn’t partisan, but I will say it sure would have been nice if for just one time in his life, Trump was able to make a situation less complicated by not acting like the most petulant of toddlers dragged kicking and screaming into inevitability.

    It also would be nice if Merrick Garland, for once in his entire fucking life, was able to recognize a conflict of interest and recused himself in favor of a special counsel. What on Earth could his motivation for not doing that be?

    • HT
      Biden had no business having classified documents and no ability to declassify them when they were taken to the non- government building. Biden had over 6 years to return them and only turned them over when a third party found them. Another issue not mentioned is that the think tank at UPenn was subsidized by the CCP who provided 54 million bucks to UPenn. Did any Chinese personnel have access to any of these areas. Will the IC be doing a damage assessment as they broadcast for the materials Trump retained? Conversely, Trump turned over what he considered government property and was negotiating the other docs. That is not necessarily “dicking around”. Furthermore, it is well recognized that presidents have final authority on what is classified and VP’s have no authority. Finally, the quantity of the materials is irrelevant. What is relevant is what was in the documents he had. One document we know Biden has was a top secret compartmentalization classification which I would bet needs to be kept in a SCI-FI.

      All I want is a uniform standard. Trump is not complicating anything other than the Left’s willingness to impose to two different standards of conduct and sanctions for the Left and the Right.

      • A notable and very serious question should be asked; why the hell did a “think tank” of individuals that were very likely didn’t have the proper security clearances have any access to any classified documents of any kind. This is a clear violation of classified document security protocols, at least it was when I was in the Army in the 1990’s handling such things.

        If the Biden administration comes out with some kind of statement saying President Obama unclassified the documents then, using the same criteria they are requiring of Trump right now, they must show the paper trail that they were unclassified.

        I can’t wait to see how this double standard fiasco turns out.

      • This… Isn’t quite right.

        Remember when Hillary was getting blasted over her server, I made the point that it was ridiculous for her to say that she wasn’t at fault because the information was not marked classified. I pointed out that there wasn’t a magical classification fairy hovering over her shoulder and stamping things she was writing that was classified, so by her standard, she could have texted troop movements to the Taliban and not been at fault. Which is dumb… But que sera sera.

        Classification is complicated, and it never seems to get explained well for mass consumption. It pays to remember: not all classified information is marked classified, not all information marked classified actually is, and there are levels of classification.

        SCIF stands for “sensitive compartmented information facility”, and you only need a SCIF for information marked SCI, and SCI is usually used for information ranked more secret than top secret and compartmentalized to certain teams, so even if you had top secret clearance, you wouldn’t necessarily have access to any given SCI batch.

        Biden’s take-homes seem to all be classified, which is the lowest level of classification. He probably didn’t need the SCIF, he almost certainly had a legitimate reason to have the information, and he almost certainly just forgot to turn it in at the end of his tenure. It hits me that this exact issue probably happens with almost every administration to some level or another, Trump just made it hard. We didn’t hear about the issue until the FBI raided Mar-a-Lago, and they only did that after Trump dicked them around for most of a year.

        • One document was labeled SCI or I would not have mentioned it.

          Again my only point is equal protection under the law.

          I believe this was an oh shit moment for the Biden team after the lawyers going through documents, as the office was being cleaned out, found them. Having blasted Trump unmercifully the only political recourse was to immediately return them quietly and withhold the information as long as they could. I do not believe for one minute that this was based on anything but political calculus and damage control. What exactly would be the reason for any classified material to be at this facility. It would be more understandable had they been found at a Biden residence as were those found at Mar a Lago.

          • Yup… This story frustrates me. The media is trying so hard to cover for him, I missed that (and by “missed, I mean the five stories I read all said “classified”). I finally found a source that admits that at least one doc was SCI (by searching explicitly for “SCI”). I’m going to go out on a limb and guess that his closet wasn’t a SCIF.

      • “Conversely, Trump turned over what he considered government property and was negotiating the other docs. That is not necessarily “dicking around”. Furthermore, it is well recognized that presidents have final authority on what is classified and VP’s have no authority.”

        Also… That is absolutely dicking around.

        The problem that Trump is going to have going forward is that regardless of whether or not the documents in question were classified, because I actually think there’s a good argument that Trump did declassify them, by action if not intent, but they did not belong to him and withholding them is, in fact, a crime. You don’t get to take stuff that doesn’t belong to you and play a childish game pretending that possession is 9/10th of the law and negotiate anything. The documents were part of the presidential record, period.

        • Not so
          The issue was what was his personal property and what belonged to the government. The new director of the archives (a Biden appointee) requested DOJ help to in securing what they felt they were entitled to. Some of see this as another example of weapon using the Justice department to destroy the opposition.

          It does not matter if negotiations take 5 minutes or two years using the Justice department to get your way is wrong until you have gone through a judicial proceeding to obtain the documents in question. My question is if the Archives knew Trump had documents why did they not know about the ones Biden retained for 6 years were missing?

          These negotiations occur after each president because every president seems to want as much memorabilia for their presidential libraries as they can keep. As for taking things that are clearly not the ex presidents we should not forget the White House furnishings taken by the Clintons that they were forced to return.

          • “These negotiations occur after each president because every president seems to want as much memorabilia for their presidential libraries as they can keep.” “The issue was what was his personal property and what belonged to the government.”

            This doesn’t reflect the reality of this situation. Unless, I suppose, you think that Trump thought that empty folders with classification markings were his own personal property and wanted to display them in his presidential library. He might be dumb enough to think that, I suppose, but it’s not reasonable, and his warped sense of reality would change the rules. Regardless, Trump doesn’t even agree with you. He was relatively up front (through his lawyers) why he was withholding the material: He never once actually claimed ownership of it, he said that the material fell under executive privilege*. Which is absurd in and of itself, because there is a whole lot of really good reasons to believe that former presidents do not have the ability to assert executive privilege against the current executive (this was hashed out over Nixon).

            *https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/22186883-archivist-letter-on-trump-documents

            And this is a great example of the problem I have with the bulk of Republican talking points in this case: There’s this coy naivete, a suspension of disbelief, a feigned ignorance, in play here… What you’re suggesting might be the case for most presidents (although, I don’t actually think even that is true), but it’s absurd given the facts of the case.

            Then we get into the reflective deflection cycle:

            “My question is if the Archives knew Trump had documents why did they not know about the ones Biden retained for 6 years were missing?”

            It’s a fair question. I’m not sure it matters materially, because “Joe Biden did something wrong” does not make what Trump did right. The point is that archives had a pretty good idea of what Trump had, and when Trump submitted most of the material in April, they had a pretty good idea of how much was missing.

            “As for taking things that are clearly not the ex presidents we should not forget the White House furnishings taken by the Clintons that they were forced to return.”

            That’s true, but since when were the Clintons the standard for ethical behavior?

            “Some of see this as another example of weapon using the Justice department to destroy the opposition.”

            “Some see” is weasel speak. Who cares what they see? Is it actually happening? And the answer here is “maybe”, the media writ large is in the tank for Biden, there’s definitely some suspect differences between how the records were tracked, but there are also differences in how Biden and Trump acted, and again… While we can complain about the double standards, and while we can push to correct them, I don’t think we’re saying that what Trump did was right because Biden did it, we’re saying what Biden did was wrong and the FBI should treat it more seriously. Aren’t we? Or do you not actually think what Biden did was wrong, and you’re just highlighting the hypocrisy?

            “It does not matter if negotiations take 5 minutes or two years using the Justice department to get your way is wrong until you have gone through a judicial proceeding to obtain the documents in question.”

            That is, at best, your opinion. The FBI had good reason to believe that those records belonged to the government. Those records, *did* in fact belong to the government. They had been negotiating over them for months, and made a decision to get them with a warrant. The warrant was legal. You could argue it might have been overkill, but it was legal.

    • Humble Talent wrote:

      I’m not saying that the fix isn’t in, I’m not saying this isn’t partisan, but I will say it sure would have been nice if for just one time in his life, Trump was able to make a situation less complicated by not acting like the most petulant of toddlers dragged kicking and screaming into inevitability.

      Said the scorpion to the frog…

      Alas, scorpion.

  3. “This was only a small number and we need to prop up Joe Biden and rules don’t apply to Democrats, they’re on our side. And the fact that we hid it until after the mid-terms means nothing, you smelly Walmart shopper.” That’s their story and they are sticking to it…You know what will happen, my fellow Deplorables. Abso-freaking-lutely nothing. Biden cooperated. It was a small number. It’s old news. Move on.

    What has, and continues, to amaze me is not just the double-standard, but the fact the the Democrats and media know full well they are applying a double-standard. Even worse, they don’t care who knows it or how transparent their dissimulation about it is. There is no shame, no fear of retribution from people they care about, and no interest whatever in applying equal or fair standards. If Democrats do it, it’s either good or easily excusable no matter how damning the evidence. When it is the Republicans, evidence is optional, it’s always evil, and anyone who disagrees is clearly a MAGA-loving authoritarian.

    The sheer gall is beyond astonishing, but even worse… America lets them get away with it every time.

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