And Speaking Of Ethics Train Wrecks…

….I have a few comments on this video from Megyn Kelly’s show, now showing on the Wuhan Virus Ethics Train Wreck:

1. I couldn’t find any mention of the study Pinsky is referring to on Google. Is it real? Is he making this up? Is Big Tech smothering news the Biden Administration doesn’t want publicized? I have no idea.

2. How can a democracy function in an environment like this, when there is no reliable source of crucial information? I was at a lunch with two left-leaning friends who were happily discussing how and when they were getting their next boosters. I saw two teens yesterday, all alone, walking down the street, with masks on. There is no reason to trust health officials, politicians, journalists, or, for that matter, Drew Pinsky. Now what?

3. Megyn Kelly, a lawyer, just advised viewers to get a fake vaccination card. I’m trying to find out what bars she currently belongs to, and in what states she has a license to practice, if any. I will file an ethics complaint.

4. Her ethics reasoning, quite apart from its legal ethics defiance, is that if you think a rule is unwise or unjust, you can lie and cheat to avoid it. She’s wrong.

16 thoughts on “And Speaking Of Ethics Train Wrecks…

  1. I read a dozen papers published this year trying to find one that mentions loong-term effects, and learned:

    * Rates are crazy low, dozens per million.
    * Young male men are the most represented.
    * Rates are higher upon second dose.
    * Suing those who mandate is poor advice, since many studies postulate this population would suffer a worse cardiac immune response to the actual virus. But then again, was any Johnson and Johnson talc found with asbestos?

    Only one study mentioned long-term prognosis, and it said all recovered fully.

    Browsed to Dr. Pinsky’s X feed and, found he’d linked another Dr. Bass who had made the claims… immediately after, Dr. Bass is called out for citing the symptoms at *incidence*, not the long term effects…

    Long-term effects were actually minimal to none, and consisted of 40 patents (33 male) out of the entire vaccinated population of Hong Kong.

    https://nitter.net/SaurinPatel77/status/1715170298855563457

    I think we can simply conclude Dr. Pinsky is easily duped, and Dr. Bass is poor at reading comprehension and also untrustworthy.

  2. Here’s the study referenced. Only the first few paragraphs are available without a subscription:

    https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.123.064772

    Much to my dismay, being a fan of Drew Pinsky and disillusioned with, in no particular order, the government, Pharma, and the Covid Vaccine, the only mention of over 50% damage is in the last paragraph and says “at presentation”, which I believe means when the subjects first came into the study, not 1 year later.

    I can’t speak to whether the over 50% damage after 1 year Dr. Drew references is found later on in the study, behind the paywall.

  3. From an ethical standpoint, whether the vaccine is actually dangerous or not is irrelevant. Forcing people to take an experimental vaccine with no evidence it is safe renders the safety moral luck. It is, and always will be, unethical to force people to participate in medical experiments.

  4. As far as I have been able to gather, Megyn gave up her law career when she moved to television. She describes herself as a lawyer but it does not appear she is a practicing attorney.

    I actually still have my vaccination card, but it’s from 2021 when the very first booster came out. I did not say anything to my doctor when she recommended I get Covid and flu shots this fall, but I’ve no intention of getting any more Covid shots. I actually have nothing against the shots per se (except calling them ‘vaccines’), and I am in a higher risk age group. But when I got the three shots in 2021, there was an increasing reaction to each one — I think my body was trying to tell me to stop and I have. As well, I am relatively confident that I’ve had Covid at least once — if that doesn’t give me immunity what would?

    You know, if the Covid shots were an actual vaccine and it could be demonstrated that everyone getting the shots would actually eliminate the disease — you know, like smallpox and measles vaccines did — my stance would probably be different. Of course, were that the case influenza would likely have been wiped out decades ago.

    Again, clearly, from all I’ve read the risk/reward calculus for children and young adults regarding the Covid shots was at best neutral to slightly positive. We don’t know if scientists will be permitted to study any long term side effects of the shots, or if that will be considered on a par with Dr. Mengele.

  5. I have never been conspiracy-minded; having worked in government for over four decades I know how impossible it is to keep even the most benign plans and programs under wraps for very long, much less a nefarious plot. These days I see a whole lot of people I know extremely distrustful of government at all levels, “health care” (Big Medicine and Big Pharma) and other bedrock systems. With no reliable mainstream news media (and alternative news sources being all over the map in their reporting), unsure of whom or what to believe, they are in many cases cynical enough to entertain a number of the conspiracy theories that are floating around. Good job, everybody!

    • Questioning what you are told by the state when the state has strong motivation to lie doesn’t make you a conspiracy theorist.

    • The NSA managed a program of secretly spying on American Citizens for years until Snowden revealed it. One person out of thousands, over years.

      I don’t think you can assume all parts of the government are like the parts you were in. Hand picked organizations built on lying and betrayal, which all spy agencies are, and with harsh consequences for revealing their actions have a proven ability to keep their actions concealed. It’s almost certain there are other actions which we are NOT aware of.

      • Oh, I’m sure there have been others like the one you cite; that’s what intelligence agencies do. But many and perhaps most of the “popular” conspiracy theories would require collusion among a plethora of agencies at all levels of government across decades. I just can’t see many on that scale being successful.

  6. Perhaps the vaccine was perfectly safe, and there isn’t any relationship to cardic events or blood clots in otherwise healthy young men and athletes. I don’t think it’s subscribing to conspiracy theories to wonder about it though.

    Unfortunately, there isn’t much motivation to do actual studies on the issue. The government mandated those vaccines. I nearly lost my job for opting out, even though I work from home with minimal human contact. Dr. Fauci assured us the vaccines were perfectly safe and effective. Well, not effective unless you change the definition of vaccine. So they did that. Perfect, NOW it’s safe and effective.

    I realize I’m in the minority, but I’m naturally suspicious when the government assures me it’s here to help. There is no real recourse for vaccine damage, therefore no risk to pharma. The government protects pharmaceutical companies from lawsuits if a vaccine causes damage. If there’s pressure for a solution, and no risk if the solution causes damage, either immediately or long-term, and money to be made…well then, what could go wrong?

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