Comment of the Day: “Ethics Verdict: When Your Town Is Being Overrun, It’s Not Racist To Use The Term ‘Overrun.’” [Corrected]

Proving that even banned commenters have their uses, Chris Marschner offered a persuasive and enlightening rebuttal of the contention by a quickly-banned new commenter here that accounts of the problems visited on Springfield, Ohio by an overwhelming influx of Haitian immigrants were tainted by racism.

Chris’s Comment of the Day combines two comments that were piggy-backed in the thread, and here they are, inspired by the post, “Ethics Verdict: When Your Town Is Being Overrun, It’s Not Racist To Use The Term ‘Overrun.’”

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Reuters did a good job spinning the actual data. Medicaid skyrocketing in the last three years; wage growth grew only after the pandemic and dropped faster than a neighboring town’s starting in 2022. Housing costs rose three times faster than in the US as a whole. Unemployment has been rising faster than in neighboring areas and the US as a whole.

Reuters makes the point that wage growth stayed above 6% longer than Dayton or the overall economy, but failed to say that it became more volatile as migrants moved in, dropping faster and farther than either Dayton or the US.

The story also makes statements like “false claims” by residents at community meetings and white supremacist protests during a jazz festival. Both statements are inflammatory and included no evidence to support the claims made.

Reuters has a progressive bias in all its reporting. Reuters wrote:
“More recently, Vance and other Republicans have amplified false claims aired by some residents at weekly city commission meetings. City commissioners in their public comments have pushed back, noting that the vast majority of Haitians are in the country legally and have a right to live where they choose”

The first statement states that locals are liars and the last statement fails to acknowledge that their legal status is exactly what the complaint is about. If Joe Biden had made an executive order giving temporary legal status for anyone in the world, anyone showing up would be here legally. At issue is the administration’s role in creating a massive influx of people who have not had to go through our normal processes to ensure they will not be a charge on society.

They continued,

“It is still a jarring increase from around 3,500 in just a few years – too fast to be reflected yet in Census data and the equivalent of 1.6 million or so new arrivals to New York City. There are growing pains – indeed outright tension – as a result, with sometimes ugly rhetoric at city commission open comment periods. A small group of white supremacists marched through town during a jazz festival in mid-August. For many local civic and business leaders, however, the advantages of having more people to fill jobs, start businesses, and buy goods and services are not lost.”

Buried in one line is the impact of the exodus from Haiti to Springfield. We all remember what Mayor Eric Adams complained of when he had to deal with far less impact on his city.

Where is the proof that the group marching were white supremacists?Is being white a bar to protest against policies that harm them while benefiting these migrants.?

Of course local business and civic leaders like an influx of cheap exploitable labor. One look at the chart shows wages were growing until the large wave of Haitians came. Then they fell faster than neighboring regions in 2022. The combination of demand for housing because of the rapid migration of Haitians coupled with increased federal benefits to these Haitians created a windfall for local businesses. This adversely affected the existing population of citizens had an actual birthright to live in the United States- not simply by virtue of a stroke of a pen by a President with an agenda to repopulate the US with government dependents.

The following is attributed to Haitian immigration but that is an illusion:

“A Ryan Homes subdivision on the outskirts of town, the first new home construction in years, is nearly built out and largely occupied. Another large development of higher-priced homes is underway, and a block of city-center town homes is sold out.”

How can this be when more than half are receiving federal assistance? How do these people who come from an impoverished nation where men work to scoop shit out of community latrines have the necessary down payments and closing costs to buy these homes? The answer: they don’t. These houses are being bought by a small group of beneficiaries of the infusion of federal dollars into supporting the Haitians.

This is actually irrelevant to the story itself except to help spin the narrative: “At a time when commercial real state is on shaky footing after the pandemic, one of several vacant downtown buildings is being converted to condominiums. And a boarded-up black structure towering over City Hall – briefly home to a failed bid to reincarnate the defunct E.F. Hutton investment firm brand – has attracted investor interest with a high-tech research hub as a possible anchor, one of several positive spillovers local development officials say they have seen from the Intel chip plant being built near Columbus.”

This has nothing to do with Haitian immigration as it is unlikely that they have the education to work in a research park or chip plant.

“For their part, city officials, local educators and the business community say that once the short-term disruptions are overcome, a growing population will add to a nascent revival.”

“We needed a workforce,” to fill jobs in a resurgent local manufacturing sector and staff a growing number of warehouse and distribution centers, said Amy Donahoe, director of workforce development with the Greater Springfield Partnership. “They are coming in and they are working hard and they want to make money.”

The people who are benefitting by cheap labor who do not suffer the costs of having to deal with the day to day issues of the culture clash will never have a problem with more labor supply. Just ask Caeser Chavez. When the Haitians start demanding entry to the country clubs, start taking tee times from the members of the Greater Springfield Partnership, or compete for their jobs I suspect they may suddenly have second thoughts…

Yes, as Amy says, they want to make more money than they could in Haiti, which is far less than we would have to pay our existing workforce.

Amy Donahoe, director of workforce development with the Greater Springfield Partnership. “They are coming in and they are working hard and they want to make money.”

Yes, they want to make more money than they could in Haiti which is far less than we would have to pay our existing workforce.

For those who do not know what these partnerships are they are comprised of the business interests in the area. They include the community college, the public schools, representatives of the Chamber of Commerce NGO’s as well as those in the main industries such as hospitals, manufacturing, hospitality services etc.   Each one benefits by a larger population even if that rapid growth decreases the overall quality of life because it dampens wage pressures on employers or provides a rationale for increased budget allocations from government.

Each one of these as well as a variety of NGO’s has a vested financial interest in expanding the population through immigration by way of getting training or resettlement grants or increased budget allocations from government sources to defray the costs of added management and administrative staff to handle the new programs for the immigrants with a plethora of special services that would not be otherwise needed.  This new money into the economy of Springfield has an inflationary effect and like all special grants when the funding dries up the employees get let go.  It’s not sustainable.

Businesses get training grants for workforce development from the state or as a pass through from the federal government. This lowers their total costs to employ less qualified workers at reduced wages. By hiring a Haitian at minimum wage rather than a more qualified American worker that does not need training at a higher one the employer benefits even though the marginal revenue from the less skilled worker is lower than the skilled worker because any future increase in wages will lag behind the productivity gains through training.  A 6% raise for a $15 dollar an hour worker will only be 90 cents per hour while a 6% raise for a $20/hour worker will be $1.20. The greater the difference between the marginal revenue and the marginal cost of each type of employee will cause the employer to want more of that type until the differential is equal.  Government involvement skews the labor market in favor of Haitians.  The relationships in these partnerships by nature are symbiotic. Each reinforces the economic and financial well-being of the others in the partnership.

There is also the psychological aspect of wages among immigrants and locals. Immigrants from impoverished nations have lower expectations for what a “good” life means. For most Haitians a home with indoor plumbing and not worrying about warlords like BarBcue roaming the streets and killing indiscriminately is like most of us thinking what it would be like to live at Mar A Lago. This creates a dual labor market with one being American employees with their understanding of a their market value and the Haitian labor pool with much lower wage and benefit expectations. 

Economists have a term for paying a worker more than market in order to increase the opportunity costs of slacking. They are called efficiency wages. Getting fired for slacking means you lose your premium wages by going anywhere else. For the Haitians who lack basic skills even minimum wage jobs are far higher than they would have back in Haiti so it becomes a draw for more Haitians and keeps labor costs lower for local employers. 

The bottom line is that many Haitians will assimilate into our culture with a bit of assistance from Americans who are typically happy to give a helping hand. However, many will not and will fall back into the comfort of the Haitian culture they left.  Even, meager government benefits is far better than in what they left behind in Haiti and they can continue to live as they did back in Haiti. People do not like change and assimilation means changing cultural habits. Those unwilling to change should not remain here and those who do well should be left alone.

With that said, it is not racist to address the behaviors of those who are unwilling to adapt and assimilate into our culture.

18 thoughts on “Comment of the Day: “Ethics Verdict: When Your Town Is Being Overrun, It’s Not Racist To Use The Term ‘Overrun.’” [Corrected]

  1. It isn’t like Cincinnati and Dayton and Colombus don’t have a large number of unemployed people. To state that there were no workers is absurd. Although the official unemployment rate is only 5%, the people who aren’t working is far higher, as in most rust-belt cities. Why is no one calling BS on this? Imagine if the federal government said all the ‘migrants’ in Chicago are there because they need workers? It would be even more true than this statement about Springfield.

    So, why import workers who have no skills and don’t even speak English from a failed island nation over a thousand miles away rather than use the English speaking Americans that may live 10-40 miles away?

  2. Until Americans become more concerned about the survival of their nation and Western Civilization than about being called “RACIST!” by the gaslighting Left, there is no hope of reversing this decline.

    • I agree. I am at the point that conservatives need to be willing to close their stores or take a day off without pay or make some other sacrifice if they want their voices to be heard.

      If Harris wins then there should be a massive but peaceful demonstration on January 20, 2025 with conservatives making their own demands, or burning Palestinian flags to show their contempt for those who want to promote intifada in America or chant death to America. We need to push back against any attempt to grant amnesty to all the persons the previous administrations have not prevented from entering in the prescribed legal manner.

      We need to see how she can deal with unhappy Americans who know she did not get to where she is without the DNC manipulating our choices. If we do not step up when necessary then we should stop bitchin’.

  3. Fantastic comment, Chris! I wanted to say so when you first wrote, so I’m glad I can speak up about it now!

    A steady rise in population, at a pace in which the community can adjust, is good. Business get more money, can hire more people to meet the increasing demand, build out more outbuildings or services, order in more supplies, all in such a way that system naturally expands. Flooding a community with migrants taxes those systems and can cause them to crumple in the short term. Hardest hit will be the necessities: grocery stores, housing, and medical facilities. People seem to forget that back in 2020, we all bought into the complete shutdown of society to slow the spread of the WuFlu to prevent the medical facilities from being overrun. Now that very dilemma is striking every community that is receiving these waves of immigrants. This entire immigration situation has been criminally mishandled by the Biden-Harris administration.

  4. Nate Silver said:

    I’ve been around these premises long enough that you hopefully won’t mistake me for woke, but the Haitian immigrant stuff is profoundly racist and you should substantially lower your esteem for anybody engaging in it.

    S

    • One, liberals (even non-woke Silver) have thrown around the word “racist” so much that it has become a matter of boy-crying-wolf. If you want to demonstrate racism, you need substance to what you’re saying.

      Two, this quote from Silver, lifted from any other context, says nothing about whether he’s referring to the pet-eating, concerns about integrating the Haitians into their new community, or talking about immigration altogether.

      Three, I would like to hear something more substantive from you than what is amounting to no more than “ya-huh, nuh-uh, ya-huh, nuh-uh…”. Jack pours out a lot of analysis in his posts. Is there a salient point that you’re trying to refute, or do you really think the following line of reasoning is a solid argument?

      1. Nate Silver says any mention of the Haiti immigrants is racist
      2. Jack Marshall mentioned the Haiti immigrants
      3. Therefore, Jack Marshall is a racist

      Or can you demonstrate that’s not the argument you’re making?

  5. I appreciate the COTD. I just wish that I had fixed the grammatical mistakes.

    While I have no data to support the contention that most Haitians are not assimilating I also have no data that most are assimilating and appropriating American norms and customs. Can we draw conclusions from witnessed Haitian behavior regarding taking geese from a park for food; perhaps.

    There is one obvious truth about embracing unfettered migration. Every public dollar spent to train, house, feed or otherwise assist the migrant is a dollar not able to be spent on a homeless veteran or financing a tutoring program for academically struggling American kids or even expanding green space for the entire community. There is a good rationale for saying charity begins at home. If the St Vincent DePaul society wants to assist Haitians or others in the third world let them do so on the funds they raise and not as an NGO that receives federal dollars to do that work. Ironically, if anyone read the Reuters story that was cited as showing how Haitians were benefitting Springfield, the migrant shown in the photo is working for St Vincent DePaul as a contract employee doing NGO work to help other Haitians complete government documents.

      • I appreciate that Jack. I did send you an email with an edited and enhanced for clarity version of the second part.

        You have enough on your plate than having to deal with this. I get in trouble when I start a sentence with a subordinate clause and forget to finish it off. I need to remember to compose in word and then copy it over to WP

  6. Chris, I took a single economics course in college that I struggled to follow. I wish you (or someone like you) had been my professor. I think I would understand much more than I do.

    Thank you for taking the time to compose such detailed thoughts into things people like me can comprehend – even though I may have to read it more than once. I am extremely grateful.

    • Joel

      I appreciate that but I think if you asked many of my students they would say they struggled too.

      I know that the first time I taught microeconomics I spoke way over their heads. I adjusted accordingly. My most productive students engaged me outside class to ask relational questions

  7. Chris, a truly superlative commentary. I had started writing a comment on the biased Reuters reporting. You did a much better job than I could have done. Thank you for your expertise.

  8. Check out this NYT article about the situation in Aurora, Colorado:

    How the False Story of a Gang ‘Takeover’ in Colorado Reached Trump – The New York Times (nytimes.com)

    These buildings have been turned into shitholes by “migrant” squatters. And the Times approach is basically, “It ain’t so bad!” No one pays rent but the place is full. They’re just trying to get by. You know, like in Venezuela. If this situation isn’t the perfect example of shithole countries exporting their “culture,” I don’t know what is. Oh, and just ask a squatter to assess the situation. That’s hard-core reportage. Assholes.

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