Unethical Quote Of The Month: New Mexico Congressional Candidate Pat Davis (Guess What Party!)

“Fuck the NRA!

—-Albuquerque City Council member Pat Davis, in a TV ad promoting his candidacy for Congress in the upcoming Democratic Party primary.

Nice.

That’s what we really need more of in the government: more incivility, vulgarity, cretinous rhetoric, and hate-mongering. Go Pat!

I suppose Davis is taking his cues from potty mouth DNC chair Tom Perez and putative Presidential candidate and California Senator Kamala Harris, both of whom have decided to jettison dignity and professionalism in pursuit of the rapidly devolving progressive base. These people are all ethics corrupters. I don’t care who they say to fuck, or what. If this their idea of leadership, they are a disgrace to the nation and whatever office they seek.

Of course Davis’s message is idiotic, regardless of his terminology. He says that the NRA’s ” pro-gun policies have resulted in dead children, dead mothers and dead fathers.”  If politicians like Davis want to repeal the right of citizens to own guns, then let them have the honesty and integrity to say so. Blaming the organization that is an advocate for the Second Amendment for crimes committed by those who abuse the right is intentionally dishonest as well as cowardly,  like blaming the ACLU for the proliferation of lowest common denominator demagogues who think “Fuck the NRA” is responsible political discourse and not merely the equivalent of a primal scream.

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97 responses to “Unethical Quote Of The Month: New Mexico Congressional Candidate Pat Davis (Guess What Party!)

  1. Steve-O-in-NJ

    If I were running against him, I’d run a spot that said “Fuck the NRA? No, Pat, fuck treating people here illegally better than citizens. Fuck selling unsustainable policies with lies. Fuck blaming our police instead of the scum that break our laws. Fuck your party, and fuck you.” I’m so-and-so, and I fucking approved this fucking message.

    • Another Mike

      You’ve got to stop sugar-coating your message, Steve.

    • Still Spartan

      How are illegals being treated better?

      • ooooh…I can answer that one. Citizens are arrested and punished when they break laws. Nobody has rallies in support of Americans who have been willfully violating laws for decades. The mainstream news media doesn’t try to use “citizens” as a substitute for “law-breaking citizens.” Democrats don’t cheer law-breaking citizens as heroes or victims.

        No?

        • Chris

          I mean, all of that except for the rallies is typical when citizens break drug laws, which are similar to immigration laws in a lot of ways.

        • Steve-O-in-NJ

          (sound of basketball being slamdunked)

          • Other Bill

            I think these kinds of statements are just the political equivalent of “the importance of being [perceived as being] earnest.” Particularly important if you spend all your time bunburying.

        • dragin_dragon

          I might also point out that many states now allow illegals to matriculate by paying in-state tuition. They also get to use Emergency Rooms for free.

          • Still Spartan

            Dragin. How is that being treated “better” than you? You too, can use an emergency room whenever you want, with or without insurance. You too benefit from in-state tuition.

            • I think dragin is required to have insurance that he pays for. Who bears the cost of the uninsured visiting the ERs?

              • Still Spartan

                I “think” Dragin is old enough for Medicaid, correct? His insurance is subsidized. An uninsured is still required to pay his/her medical bill.

                • Got the stats on how many uninsured illegals don’t?

                  • Still Spartan

                    But it’s the same if you’re legal or illegal. If you’re a legal citizen and can’t pay your medical bill, you’re still going to owe that money. And, there are limits on how far the law will allow collection.

                    • Except illegals are not chased for those bills. If they are, they change addresses or leave the country and ‘poof’ the bills are paid by ME.

                    • Still Spartan

                      Not to belabor the point, but the same thing happens with poor legal citizens. They don’t tend to own property, so they move around as necessary. Growing up, we had neighbors who fled in the middle of the night to another state to avoid creditors. Poor is poor.

                    • Chris

                      And those poor, legal and illegal, live in constant fear.

                      If slick really envies them so much, he could easily choose to live like them.

                    • Chris

                      Ack—make that Steve, slick, dragin and Michael.

                      Just a parade of silliness.

                    • Fuck you, Chris, and your holier-than-thou attitude. Great strawman, you progressive prick. Oh, you have the high ground, sure you do. Progressive comments like that will kill your precious blue wave this Fall.

                      I have been poor, you snot nosed entitled jerk. I worked my way up just a bit, but still sit in the lower middle class, if not the upper poor. You don’t know anything about me (on purpose) yet can just paint with a broad brush.

                      I STILL pay taxes, and the illegals suck that money down. While the legal poor may sometimes use those tactics, it is NOT the norm, as THEY HAVE ROOTS HERE. You know, like family, friends, jobs, or at a minimum welfare payments. All of those make it harder to just up and leave, especially in this day and age of computer tracking.

                      Illegal Aliens have none of those ties. I have lived with them my entire life, and know more on a bad day than you ever will. Most are good people, if you ignore that they are criminals. They run up bills and change addresses, change names, change jobs, as a matter of course. They do not pay any type of insurance. They cause car wrecks and abandon the scene, running to Mexico until the heat is off. They clog emergency rooms with minor minor ailments, BECAUSE IT IS FREE. They steal identities causing citizens hundreds of miles away tax problems, when they bother to pay taxes at all (and those that hire them should be in jail).

                      Those are facts, you sanctimonious twit. BITE ME

                    • 1. I rule the verbal intensity of this comment regrettable but excusable under the circumstances.

                      2. I am happy to see my favorite annoyed rejoinder, “Bite Me!” to be adopted as Ethics Alarms tradition. I liked “bite me” before Crow on MSK 3000 made it mainstream and a catchphrase, but I have to give the space robot ultimate credit. My favorite such phrase came from a female subordinate when I worked at the US Chamber of Commerce, a lovely Georgia belle who would brush off jerks with a drawled, “Oh, hop up my ass!” But that one had to be heard to be fully appreciated, so “Bite me!” it is.

                    • Steve-O-in-NJ

                      I always thought it was Drew Carey who made “bite me” famous.

                    • Steve-O-in-NJ

                      You don’t know what you’re talking about, Chris. Piece of advice, don’t deliberately piss off more people than you have to at once, or, if you do, don’t complain when you get piled on later. You are well on your way to displacing valky as the most hated liberal here, but, then again, you shouldn’t be here at all, since you said unless I was condemned for deliberately hitting you where it really hurt to prove a point you were gone.

                    • Still Spartan

                      Actually, I think Slick’s comment is indicative of many people’s thinking right now (and I am not writing this with any snark at all). We have a large population of white, rural, poor people in this country. And it sucks. I was one of those people. Good jobs have become scarce, especially with blue collar jobs virtually disappearing overseas. And the jobs that are left don’t pay the bills. These people also don’t have the money to move elsewhere — or tend to not have the education needed to get a good paying job in the information age anyway.

                      Now, we have poor black populations and poor latino populations as well of course, but what makes the white rural poor unique is that they tend to be isolated in the country and do not have the freedom of movement that predominately urban poor have. The white rural poor do still have some advantages: 1) they are white (so they don’t face discrimination); 2) food scarcity isn’t as big of a problem. Many supplement with gardens, hunting, and even farms if they have the space; 3) because people are spread out, crime isn’t as big of a problem. But these people still want jobs. And they see, for the most part, that they are struggling even more than their parents did. It is scary. Liberals are not doing enough to appeal to them.

                      Now, I personally do think that liberal policies protect the poor more than Republican ones do, but we do a piss-poor job of communicating it. And, while I do believe in the liberal message when it comes to rights for minorities, women, better health coverage for all, etc., this is not what the poor want to talk about — or at least they are ranked lower on their priority list. They want jobs. Trump — even though he is a rat bastard con man — made that his message. Why are the jobs gone? Why can’t they send their kids to college? Why are their communities being destroyed by the opiod epidemic? (By the way, this is no different than the crack epidemic that hit the black poor, but this is the first time that it has hit white communities hard.) And then for some, he also played into the fear that they are paying more because of illegals. Of course, we as a society are paying more (although not as much as Republicans claim) for illegals, but the truth is that it isn’t the rural poor who are shouldering this burden, because their taxes overall are pretty low. It is the upper middle class and the wealthy who are paying more. (Although proportionately it hits the upper middle class the hardest.) But this message resonates with the rural poor the most, because they live in predominately white communities and they are suffering economically.

                      I did not have a lot of options when I graduated high school. My family had no money and I had to work. Luckily I was smart, white (and arguably pretty), so I was able to elevate myself with the benefit of a ton of school loans. Now, I can completely pass as a member of the upper middle class, and few of my friends know that I used to raise pigs and was a livestock judging champion in my state. Ninety percent of the kids from my hometown were not as lucky, and now that the blue collar jobs are gone, they are scraping by to pay their bills. Liberals need to do a better job reaching out to them. First, it is the right thing to do. Second, on a more practical level, they vote. Unless we scrap the electoral college (and I don’t see that happening), every national election is going to be a nail-biter.

                    • Comment of the Day, SS. Terrific analysis.

                    • Steve-O-in-NJ

                      I have something of an outsider’s perspective on this, having grown up in middle-class to wealthy northeastern NJ, but spending a lot of time in rural eastern PA after my parents built a vacation home that was supposed to become a retirement home there. I was the son of an IT exec and ultimately became an attorney (though it didn’t come easy and it didn’t come cheap), but on the weekends and whenever we’d take vacation there I’d see the local-born white folks in the countless small hamlets and unincorporated areas between the larger towns. Their clothes were poor quality, their dental health was less than wonderful, they were just scraping by. Now the blue collar jobs that used to hold up places like Stroudsburg and Scranton are fading away or have faded away, and the up and coming generation of these folks look around and they say “hey, what happened here?” There are few blue-collar jobs available, the ones that are won’t pay the bills, taxes, prices, and everything else is on the way up, and in the meantime folks who didn’t grow up here, aren’t here legally, and don’t even speak the language are getting all kinds of breaks. Also in the meantime, a black, smooth-talking, city slicker president was wagging his finger at them for clinging to guns and religion. No wonder the last time out they said that this was crap, and they were voting for the guy who seemed to be listening to them.

                    • “The white rural poor do still have some advantages: 1) they are white (so they don’t face discrimination);”

                      They don’t?

                      Nancy Isenberg (White Trash: The 400-Year Untold History of Class in America) sees it differently.

                    • Still Spartan

                      Not comment of the day worthy IMHO.

                    • A commenter always gets a veto, if that’s your call. Personally, I found it to useful, objective analysis with a personal perspective,

                    • Steve-O-in-NJ

                      No, it is worthy.

                    • I believe we should get a COTD on Spartan’s entry. I would like to discuss further with her, in the interest of enlightened discovery of other viewpoints.

                    • Still Spartan

                      It’s just ego. If I were gunning for COTD, I would have been more careful with language and probably left out anecdotes. 🙂

                    • You can edit it and send it to me, and I’ll use that one. I’ve done that before.

                    • Still Spartan

                      No worries. Go ahead.

                    • Thanks. I think it’s a good comment—I always do a little editing, though you typically don’t need it.

                • dragin_dragon

                  I am, SS. I’m also a veteran, eligible for medical benefits. Both benefits were earned, because of previous actions. When I do need to go to an emergency room, I pay my portion of the bill. They do not. And Texas law allows a person, any person, to go to an emergency room regardless of past payment. The Texas Constitution forbids garnishing, if that’s the word, of wages to pay a debt.

                  • “garnishing, if that’s the word”

                    To me, the reference always evoked an image of the contents of a skeezy relish tray on a table cloth pattern better suited for golf slacks or square dance dresses, ergo, something someone with a modicum of self-respect would want nothing of….on a number of levels.

                    • dragin_dragon

                      Finally looked it up. It’s ‘garnisheeing’, but, boy, does that sound awkward.

                    • I’ve heard “garnish” used, mercifully not in reference to me personally, to indicate that a tourniquet type of action would be applied to a paycheck.

                      But this one don’t look too awful bad, am I right?

                    • To me, the reference always evoked an image of the contents of a skeezy relish tray on a table cloth pattern better suited for golf slacks or square dance dresses, ergo, something someone with a modicum of self-respect would want nothing of….on a number of levels.

                      Careful… you just cast aspersions on many a hole in the wall family owned BBQ or Seafood joint in South Texas… which can have the best food one ever tasted.

                      🙂

                    • dragin_dragon

                      Not to mention the taquerias springing up all over south side.

                    • Slick; you gearing up for the 2nd Annual EA Memorial Day “Who Boasts The Best Brats in the Known Universe” competition?

                      I may have to post from either Johnsonville (Johnsonville Brats), Manitowoc (Cher Make), Klements, Usingers, et al, (Milwaukee), Bavaria (Madison), Nueskes (Wittenberg), and about a million in the Green Bay area.

                      https://www.yellowpages.com/search-map/green-bay-wi/sausage-companies.

                      FYI, just got a brand spankin’ new Weber Genesis II S-310 and am ready to rock-n-roast!

                      Gentlemen/women, to the starting grates…!

                    • I was given a Portable Kitchen (PK) ‘Original’ this year, and added the Littlemore Grid to increase indirect cooking ability, a key element for brats.

                      Kolbasa is our current best, but we end up more often with Johnsonville due to cost and availability. Those are great, too.

                      My daughter and I like to cook them until they almost split, then scorch (blacken) the skin for the charcoal flavor.

                      https://www.pkgrills.com/the-pk-grill-smoker-classic-silver/

                    • dragin_dragon

                      Might I suggest ‘Texas Heritage’ Venison sausage, available at H.E.B. It’s a bit more expensive, but well worth the update.

                    • Slick;

                      “you just cast aspersions on many a hole in the wall family owned BBQ or Seafood joint in South Texas”

                      My apologies; outstanding vittles aside, those places are fancy compared to the the joints I frequent, not the least of which is the Harbor Lights Inn at Saxon Harbor on Lake Superior.

                      https://www.facebook.com/pages/Harbor-Lights-Inn/1084952164867345

                      That PK looks…um…Slick, like something George Jetson would own. Does it open from right to left?

                    • I believe you-n-your daughter would LUV the Double Johnny.

                      http://www.johnsonville.com/recipe/wisconsin-double-brat.html

                      We split ours and stack ’em rather than just slide ’em in whole…or as d_d might put it:

                      MMMMMM! Yummy!

                    • Buns are optional… so we have that going for us

                    • “Buns are optional” (ribald rejoinder being mightily suppressed)

                      Anywho, the sesame/poppy seed has been planted; my lovely and long suffering wife is picking up a Johnsonville Party Pack (is there any other kind?) for tonight, and the Mikes Hard Lemonade is a’chillin’!

                      Skål!

                    • Anywho, the sesame/poppy seed has been planted; my lovely and long suffering wife is picking up a Johnsonville Party Pack (is there any other kind?) for tonight, and the Mikes Hard Lemonade is a’chillin’!

                      You, Sir, are rude, crude and socially reprehensible… I have to work tomorrow, and will NOT be getting my ration of charcoal grilled brats.

                      This weekend… on the other hand… 🙂

                  • dragin_dragon

                    MMMMMM! Yummy!

        • Still Spartan

          Well, it depends on the law, right? I break laws all the time — speeding, jaywalking, not renewing my driver’s license and license tags on time. Really, the list is pretty endless. And the rest of your examples are REALLY weak. No one is holding a rally for me? So what. Who cares? How would that make my life better? The media doesn’t talk about me? WTF? The whole system is designed to benefit me. I am a white, middle aged, upper middle class woman. I benefit from so much privilege every day it is staggering. And, I’m supposed to somehow feel upset that there are groups of people lobbying for illegal immigrants (who have next to nothing and are fleeing shitholes created by America’s drug habits) to be allowed to live in our communities and work jobs that no Americans want? Wow.

        • Note that there are no sanctuary cities for military deserters, even though very similar arguments could be used to defend deserters.

      • Illegals can go to school in my state on my dime for FREE, K through College. My white son does not qualify for student aid based on the color of his skin.

        • Still Spartan

          Wait — through college? Or up until college? Public school is free for my kids too. As for taxes, the notion that illegals don’t pay taxes is ridiculous. They pay sales tax — they pay Americans’ property taxes through rent. They pay taxes.

          Student aid is not dependent on skin color. You know that — or at least “should” know that. It has to do with family income. Now, if you are referring to scholarships that are available to minorities, that’s different.

          One more thing. I will acknowledge that illegals do put a strain on public schools — but only in the ESL area. ESL is specialized instruction and requires resources. But I don’t have a problem with this — just as I don’t have a problem with other special needs instruction that perhaps my kids don’t need.

          • Wait — through college?

            Why, yes, and here in Texas too! I can only wonder what happens in less conservative states.

            They suck up grants at all levels, as well as scholarships that should go to citizens. I have known ‘dreamers’ who left college without debt due to public and private assistance. They qualify for welfare while going to school as well, despite that ‘not being possible.’

            As for taxes, the notion that illegals don’t pay taxes is ridiculous. They pay sales tax — they pay Americans’ property taxes through rent. They pay taxes.

            Sure, they pay, at most in Texas, 8.25% on taxable items they buy retail. Welfare given to illegal aliens who commit fraud offsets that, as well as those that get welfare despite the laws saying otherwise. Rent? Ha! They abuse occupancy laws, sharing the rent burden with two or three times the legal ‘butts in houses,’ and frequently are behind on rent, or skip out on the rent after running up a bill. What they pay is a flea bite compared to what I pay, yet they take MUCH more out of the system than I ever will. This is what is known as a net loss to taxpayers.

            Student aid is not dependent on skin color

            This used to be true, but after Obama took over student loans the actual practice has changed. I have relatives working in colleges who tell how the college is coerced by Federal regulations to grant minorities preferential treatment, lest the college lose their funding. Grants almost never go to poor whites anymore, and scholarships run the same way. My son, had he claimed Hispanic blood (of which we have none we know of, and is NOT actually verified in any way by authorities) would have gone to community college the first two years free in Texas, we were told, given our family income. Having gotten through college on Pell Grants, Scholarships, Student Loans, The GI Bill, and a lot of hard work in multiple jobs, I was shocked that the system was set up against us based on skin color.

            I will acknowledge that illegals do put a strain on public schools — but only in the ESL area.

            Maybe where you live: I cannot speak to east coast progressive conditions where you have far fewer illegal aliens to contend with, percentage wise. However, in Texas these kids come into school mostly undereducated for their age, requiring remedial classes which suck resources away from citizens. ESL programs have been deemed ‘discriminatory’ in many school districts, as well as too costly given the numbers who require it, and thus (outside of a single ESL English class) these children are mainstreamed, again sucking resources away from citizens.

            Get that? Americans cannot learn as much in a given class as the teacher has to cater to the lowest level in the class. Many schools now have two tiers or ‘tracks’ for students (which costs more, as you need more teachers) so American students can learn the normal course curriculum without illegal aliens dragging away the opportunities.

            These kids are often discipline problems as well, as they believe that their illegal status makes them entitled over American citizens (and who can blame a child for getting that message in these circumstances?) and thus why should they listen to teachers and administration? Many of these ‘kids’ are from gang environments, from countries where the rule of law is a joke, and ‘might makes right’ is normal to their life experience. American teachers are not allowed to use harsher punishment methods that would be used in their own countries, and they have a fine disdain for the puny discipline offered, the worst of which is In School Suspension (they cannot be expelled, unlike Americans). So sit in a room and play on their American taxpayer provided smartphone all day. So what? They still feed the kid, and that is what they are really there for, in the gang banger’s mind.

            But I only have some 150 years of Texas teaching experience in my family to draw from, so maybe all of this is not the norm /snark.

            • Still Spartan

              Private grants and charities are allowed to give money to whomever they want Slick. I didn’t receive any of those funds either. I did receive state scholarships to college, but they were academic and talent-based. I didn’t receive any financial aid because my father refused to fill out the forms (he was a very private person).

              I do know that some states offer in-state tuition to undocumented/illegal immigrants, but I’m not aware of tax payer funds going to grants for illegals. And they do not qualify for federal loans, subsidized or not. Again, private charities can do whatever the hell they want. I can’t get angry over how other people want to spend their money. I’m sure there are some illegals who are smart and/or lucky enough to get through college debt-free, but I would rather take my chances at free or subsidized money as a legal citizen, and I am guessing most people would as well if they are being honest.

              K-12 schools struggle — whether or not they have undocumented students. Poverty is the major indicator of school success. My current local schools are terrible. Even though my area is fairly affluent, everyone (and I’m stressing everyone) sends their kids to private school if they have two dimes to rub together. So, the kids that are left in public school tend to be very poor here, and predominately African-American or Latino. We actually are considering moving to another county to get better schools, but our mortgage is going to go up considerably. It might end up being a wash frankly compared to what we are paying now.

              I went to horrible schools growing up. The only difference is that they were 100% white because it was a rural area. The real truth is that the poor suck up resources, because they do not have all the advantages that come from being raised in a wealthy family. But for public schools and public libraries, I’d probably still be a waitress.

              • Sure, private organizations can give to whom they wish. Part of my explanation is that many of these are placed at the school’s disposal, who feel the pressure to look at skin color when handing them out. Every one that goes to an illegal alien is one less for an American citizen. You are woefully uninformed at the discrimination taking place against whites.

                My brother had a situation in his family that dried up the income, which was never great, him being a private school teacher. His little white family was outright told that welfare was not for whites, and they ought to be ashamed for applying! They were given wrong deadlines, 10 minute warnings to be at the office for some mandatory classes (when childcare was not provided,) and their paperwork was ‘lost’ countless times. This was by the state welfare officials in his local office.

                Our family took care of basic needs (like making the mortgage payment and buying staples) while his wife cooked rice and beans. We made sure the sentiment and situation went up the ladder, and after weeks of slow walking of their application and outright racist commentary by (black, it happened) social workers, his case was taken up by a regional manager who fixed the paperwork and gave them back benefits they were owed. (Full disclosure those who helped were Latino and Black)

                Obama definitely put his thumb on the scales, on purpose, with intent. He targeted ‘poor white trash’ who never benefited from so called ‘white privilege.’ Poor whites are discriminated against just as any other color, in fact more so these days by progressives looking to even some mythical score against those uninvolved in the past transgressions.

                We vote. We voted Trump in because Hillary promised more of the same: two tier justice, discriminatory laws, and benefits for those who refuse to work. The Democrats do not have a problem communicating what they are doing for whites because they are not doing anything at all for them, and whites know it. They are busy calling whites racist, sexist, whatever… saying whites should die, that they hate us… and we believe them.

                • Still Spartan

                  “Sure, private organizations can give to whom they wish. Part of my explanation is that many of these are placed at the school’s disposal, who feel the pressure to look at skin color when handing them out. Every one that goes to an illegal alien is one less for an American citizen.”

                  Full stop. That’s not even remotely accurate. Let’s take The United Negro College Fund. Are you saying that the money would be earmarked for whites if it wasn’t geared toward black students?

                  Or take another foundation that specifically says this is a grant for qualified latino students — you’re assuming (incorrectly) that this money would still be set aside for college students in general.

                  Something that I am very passionate about is music. I’m also passionate about opportunities for women. And I’m passionate about giving opportunities to those of low economic means. If I were a billionaire, I could see myself quite legally (and ethically I might add) setting up scholarships for female high school students of low economic means to go to college — if pursuing a degree in music. Heck, I might even limit it to flutists. I might limit it to poor diverse female flutists. Or, I might set up those funds for kids to go to music camps in the summer. My money, my decision. And if I didn’t get my way, I might not donate that money.

                  One thing that we haven’t talked about here is community college. For children who are not smart enough to earn scholarships or are unwilling to take out student loans, that is why community colleges exist. Personally, I think these colleges should be absolutely free — and it would have the benefit of eliminating these horrible private schools that are conning young kids to take out huge loans to go to less than stellar schools. Going to community college for two years and then transferring to a state or private college is a very real and smart path for children with limited means. I transferred myself (I started at a university satellite campus) after 2 years and only did 1.5 years at my state university before getting my degree.

                  • Spartan, you took what I said and set up a strawman.

                    Full stop. That’s not even remotely accurate. Let’s take The United Negro College Fund… specifically says this is a grant for qualified latino students — you’re assuming (incorrectly) that this money would still be set aside for college students in general.

                    And where did I claim that? I did NOT state that such ‘earmarked’ funds would go to the general portfolio. I am talking about the myriad of smaller grants, scholarships, and endowments that a college (in this specific case, a community college) has in their portfolio to grant to the worthy. I have firsthand and secondhand accounts from those doing the granting that they are pressured to give these to minorities and illegal aliens, lest they lose federal funding. Many of these people are related to me. “You are the wrong color for financial aid” from a cousin who bears us no malice, just was being matter of fact. (We could get loans… at ruinous rates. Which the parents have to take on. Thanks, Obama!) These are not earmarked, except to go the the community college for distribution. The Federal Government is tilting the scales.

                    If I were a billionaire… My money, my decision. And if I didn’t get my way, I might not donate that money.

                    Where did I assert otherwise? Another strawman.

                    Going to community college for two years…

                    My son has done exactly this, hopefully to graduate in a couple of weeks (if he did not mess up). This is where the firsthand experience is from! He will be sitting out to work next semester (at least) so he can continue past an Associates degree (in music, as it happens. We don’t know where he got the talent. We do know it is unlikely he will get a job in music, so will look elsewhere for a degree in another field)

                    You are perfectly correct that community colleges are a great help: I went to one (on full ride scholarship) before transferring to Texas A&M. Ahem, it took three more years to get the engineering degree once there, but that had more to do with class scheduling (sophomore level degree classes) than work ethic. 🙂

            • Chris

              (they cannot be expelled, unlike Americans).

              Source for this claim?

              • BITE ME, Chris, and you alinsky nit picking point scoring.

                I sourced it in my comment, as in ‘I lived it, and have relatives telling me it is so.’

                • Chris

                  Your relatives are wrong.

                  • Can you source this comment?

                    • Chris

                      You are the one who made an outlandish, extreme claim: that illegal immigrants cannot be expelled from school. The baseline is to disbelieve outlandish, extreme claims unless they are accompanied by evidence. I do not need a source for this baseline. You need a source for your outlandish, extreme claim. Your relatives don’t count; outlandish, extreme claims require more than anecdotal evidence to be believed by reasonable people.

                    • So you have no source, and therefore cannot comment.

                      How does it feel to be Alinsky’d?

                    • I mean, this is what made Trump so popular: the bullshit progressives (and the Elite Establishment) spout that contradicts the life experiences of most people, coupled with the dishonest nit picking and diversion used by progressives like “depends upon the definition of the word is‘ Bill Clinton.

                      You are good at such dishonesty. I hope you are well paid for all the time you spend spouting such inanities. Is it by the post, or by the word?

                    • Chris

                      So you have no source, and therefore cannot comment.

                      How does it feel to be Alinsky’d?

                      Asking you to provide evidence for an outlandish, extreme claim isn’t an Alinsky tactic, it’s a normal and valid debate tactic.

                      I’m sorry you can’t handle it.

                  • whah, sniff, cry and ignore the replies.

        • That would be a basis for an anti-discrimination lawsuit.

  2. Pat Rogers

    I know Pat Davis. Pat Davis is not a friend of mine. But, I can assure you this is quintessential Pat Davis. Davis directed all of ProgressNow’s dishonest activities for many years in New Mexico. I was one of the Davis/ProgressNow “honorees” before the 2012 election. Davis directed the picketing of my law office/get out the Democratic vote and the racism dog whistle internet attack based on the theft of private emails and Davis’s dissemination of the stolen, private emails.
    As additional proof, however, of the existence of God, Mr. Davis was arrested for drunk driving in 2014. Luckily for
    Davis, his campaign for sheriff in 2010 on a “get tough on drunk drivers” platform failed, both in terms of his election and any actual “getting tough” on drunk drivers.
    Mr. Davis explained to the arresting officers investigating his drunken midnight rear ending of a nurse and her family, that the so-called smell of alcohol was mouthwash. His slurred speech was because they didn’t recognize his Southern accident. And lastly, as an officer at the local air force base, he needed to get back to duty. None of that impressed too much, and Mr. Davis resorted to asking repeatedly, if the officers “didn’t know who he was “. Apparently he presumed that they SHOULD know who was in charge at ProgressNow and how important he was.
    But Mr. Davis was, apparently, too principled (or had too much mouth wash) to remember to ask for a break on the basis that he was on the board of Crime Stoppers and he was once “one of them” a former college cop—good heavens, presumably he wasn’t allowed to carry a gun!!
    While maintaining his innocence and not accepting responsibility, Mr. Davis immediately and repeatedly announced to the compliant media, he was accepting “full responsibility” for his actions. The civil lawsuit lasted a year plus before he actually accepted (any) responsibility and the criminal proceedings eventually ended in some justice as well.
    As additional proof, however, of the existence of the devil, Mr. Davis with all of those qualifications, then won a city council seat over a young lawyer who was born and grew up in the district. The candidate’s father was a prominent lawyer in town who had previously represented the same district; his mother a well-loved Spanish high-school teacher. Davis’s opponent had some serious qualifications of his own: local high school sports hero; Harvard graduate;Michigan Law School; bi-lingual Spanish speaker in a district with 40% Spanish speakers (and no “Southern” speakers). Mr. Davis had only one advantage, but that was enough in the seriously partisan “non-partisan” election. See Jack’s Headline for a clue.
    So, not so fast Mr. Smarty-Pants, East Coast ethics expert and diviner! Don’t mislead your readers and suggest this ad is something unusual. The Davis ad is just par for the dishonest ProgressNow Pat Davis course.

  3. Using the word Fuck is tres hip in some circles, but time-n-place.

    I myself don’t use it to excess in polite conversation, but the fact remains it’s been referenced time-n-again in my past and I don’t see that…um…predilection diminishing appreciably going forward.

    Seems I’m not alone; wasn’t there a “Fuck You” commenting account responding to an ancient post recently?

  4. ”Seems I’m not alone; wasn’t there a recent comment from a “Fuck You” commenting account responding to an ancient EA post?

  5. Other Bill

    The guy’s one of ix candidates in the Democratic primary. Super progressive, Bernie Bro-like, openly gay, grass roots funding. Probably trying to create a little buzz in the base and get more contributions.

  6. If politicians like Davis want to repeal the right of citizens to own guns, then let them have the honesty and integrity to say so. Blaming the organization that is an advocate for the Second Amendment for crimes committed by those who abuse the right is intentionally dishonest as well as cowardly, like blaming the ACLU for the proliferation of lowest common denominator demagogues who think “Fuck the NRA” is responsible political discourse and not merely the equivalent of a primal scream.

    Or blaming the NAACP for crimes committed by some black people.

    Davis’s predecessors about fifty years ago probably did say, “Fuck the NAACP”- in private, of course.

    Of course Davis’s message is idiotic, regardless of his terminology. He says that the NRA’s ” pro-gun policies have resulted in dead children, dead mothers and dead fathers.”

    Maybe he should blame gangs instead.

  7. smorss2011

    “Guess what Party”? Do you not see how unethical that statement is? I have now lost all respect for this website. P.S. It should read “Guess which party?”, but you people never could use proper grammar.

    • If someone can get away from sock drawer duties, please explain this comment to me.

      • Other Bill

        Is this the kind of stuff you have to moderate?

      • Considering Mr Smores has not been a big contributor, I am guessing this is a drive by trolling.

        This fine fellow is smarter than all of us, and far more hip. That he is progressive is certainly a valid hypothesis: he does not pay attention enough to know which party is using the F word; he corrected a minor grammatical point (an Alinsky tactic); and he assumes that his loss of (silent, unexpressed, and likely nonexistent) respect for this site somehow hurts Jack and/or those who comment here.

        The fact that he may now ‘go away’ should be taken as a positive development by all rational commentators of any stripe.

  8. Chris

    Absolutely unethical ad from Pat Davis.

    Democratic politicians following Trump into the gutter is not the answer.*

    *Note that this does not, in my estimation, apply to comedians, who by their very profession have license to play in the gutter.

    • I know of no prominent Republican who has used fuck in public statements, several Democrats, though, and increasingly often. The worst Trump has said as President was “son of a bitch,” which at this point is vulgarity lite. This is beneath Trump.

      • Several articles were published in early 2017 documenting the phenomenon of increased profanity (almost exclusively noticeable among democrat ranks).

        Politics is downstream of culture. If there is any scapegoating to be found, it would first be found in what people have permitted to become acceptable in general.

      • Is there an exhaustive list of Trump’s use of profanity?

        • I haven’t seen one. He was just a crude and vulgar candidate, with his infamous “out of her whatever” and penis innuendos, the riff on the disabled reporter, and a few others. In what was a private meeting where he foolishly believed that he could rely on the honor of Democrats, he used “shit-hole.” Undoubtedly, he opened the door, or some thought he did, allowing Democrats like Tom Perez and Kamala Harris to break the Fuck Barrier.

          Nice, old Uncle Joe had already become the first VP to be caught using “fuck,” you will remember.

      • Steve-O-in-NJ

        Most of the famously foul-mouthed writers are on the liberal side also. Michelle Malkin and Matt Walsh may be long on impact and short on substance, but you don’t hear them dropping f-bombs every two sentences like Dan Savage.

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