“Thank God It’s Friday!” Ethics Amen, 2/28/2020: Will Women Give Up Sports? Does Joe Biden Know What “Arrest” Means? Do Kids Really Think Sitting In The Car Is Fun?, And Other Important Questions…

Amen to THAT…

1. Conservatism and nostalgia gone nuts...In the category of posts I don’t understand at all, right-ward blogger/pundit Megan Fox put up something called “8 Fun (and Possibly Dangerous) Activities Enjoyed by Past Generations That Today’s Kids Will Never Experience.” She said in her introduction of the paean to the good ol’ days, “Children are more coddled and protected than ever in 2019. For kids, it’s oppressive. I know mine listen to my stories of summers full of freedom and independence, running around the neighborhood all day until dark, with wide-eyed envy. These days, kids are hardly free to do anything we could back in generations past.”

But look what she chose…

  • “Play all day with no adult supervision, roaming neighborhoods and friends’ houses until dark”

We let out son do this, and I would do it today. There’s nothing stopping you. I’d strongly suggest waiting until the child is at least 10, though.

  • Ride in cars without seatbelts.

I don’t see how anyone can be nostalgic about something that got kids killed, abd what was so much fun about riding without seat belts anyway?

  • “The joy of phone calls” 

Okay, texting is more popular. But I see kids on the phone all the time (A school is almost next to our house.). If a kid really thinks phoning is a “joy,’ nothing is stopping her.

  • ” Lawn darts, rusty slides, dangerous park equipment”

Says Fox,

“At our neighborhood park, the slide was so high that it would make your stomach drop half way up the ladder…..  Nobody’s mommy came with them to the park. It was a sanctuary…Parks have been sanitized and de-riskified with padded ground and plastic, twisty slides that are so slow it seems pointless to even use them….Everything is super safe, and yet everyone’s mother is hovering. It makes no sense.”

There’s also a park just like the one she described within view of our house, yes, with moms (actually nannies) all around. The kids there seem to be having a lot of fun anyway.  All I remember from our local playground was coming home injured, sometimes badly. The only time I was ever beat up as a child was at that playground, because there were no adults around. What fun!

  • Hanging out at the mall in packs of 11- to 15-year-olds

Good riddance.

  • Buying cigarettes for a family member

What? Why is this  on the list?

  • Sitting in the car for up to an hour while Mom grocery shops

This is also a “What?” My parents never did that to us, and I don’t know why any responsible parent would. “Oh yes, we all did this,” says Fox.  “Back when I was a kid it was completely normal to have a parking lot full of kids in cars waiting for parents. No one thought this was a crime or weird at all. And we loved it!” She must be from Mars.

  • Babysitting

Babysitting was (and still is) a way to make money. Anyone who thought it was “fun” was weird.

Posts like this are among the reasons why conservatives have a bad reputation.

2.  Look! The Associated Press actually defended the President in a Factcheck! This one came in useful instantly, because the “Trump has cut the CDC’s budget and we’re all going to DIE!” theme was all over Facebook, aided by the false pronouncements of various Presidential candidates.

3. Speaking of false pronouncements of Presidential candidates, Joe Biden repeatedly claimed to be arrested with Nelson Mandela as part of his pandering campaign to blacks. This has been widely debunked, and finally a TV interviewer asked him about it, CNN’s John Berman, who said, “You said during a visit to South Africa to visit Nelson Mandela, which I know was a very memorable visit for you, that you were arrested when you were there. Your campaign has since come out and said,” No, no, no,” you were separated from other people at the airport. But you didn’t say that, but you did say “arrest” three times. Why?” Here’s Joe’s response:

What I meant to say was — look — I strongly, strongly, strongly, was opposed to apartheid. I was one of the leaders. If you doubt it, go on JoeBiden.com and look at the exchange between George Schultz and me on the foreign relations committee. And here’s the deal, I was with a black delegation the Congressional Black Caucus, they had me get off a plane, the Afrikaners got on in their short pants and their guns, lead me off first and lead me in a direction totally different. I turned around and the entire black delegation was going another way. I said “I’m going through that door that says ‘whites only,’” I’m going with them and they said, “You’re not. You can’t move, you can’t go with them.” They kept me there until finally it was clear that I wasn’t going to move and what they finally did was they said, “Okay, they’re not going to back the Congressional delegation go through the ‘black door,’ they’re going to make me go through the ‘white door.’ They took us out – if my memory serves me – through a baggage claim area up to a restaurant, and they cleared out a restaurant. When I said arrested, I meant I was not able to, I was not able to move. Cops, Afrikaners, were not letting me go with them, made me stay where I was. I guess I wasn’t arrested, I was stopped. I was not able to move where I wanted to go.

But that’s not what “arrested” means, and even with half his brain tied behind his back these days, Joe knows it.

4. More on the trans competitors destroying female sports beat: New Zealand weightlifter Laurel Hubbard continues her bid to qualify for the Tokyo Olympics. She competed in men’s weightlifting competitions before transitioning seven years ago, when she was 35. She’ll in the women’s 87-plus kg division in the Australian Open in Canberra on Sunday. She won last month’s World Cup in Rome where she lifted 270kg, defeating  Ukraine’s Anastasiia Lysenko. Hubbard is eligible to compete in women’s events, according to the International Weightlifting Federation’s guidelines for the inclusion of transgender athletes.

Australian former track athlete Tamsyn Manou said yesterday that women needed to “take a stand” over the inclusion of transgender athletes in their sports.

Here’s Miss Hubble…

Some women are taking a stand, like the girls suing here.

Unless there is a general boycott, however, the incursion of trans competitors into women’s and girls’ sports will continue, with the attendant unfairness.

Ann Althouse, a woman herself, opined that women are too nice and submissive to take a stand, and will quietly go back to not participating in sports, writing,

Today, the pressure to be empathetic toward transgenders is so great that I believe women, known for our empathy and our desire to appear compassionate, will let go of competitive sports and return to the inclinations that dominated back in the days when I went to high school. It’s a trade-off, a trade-off between the potential for athletic victory and the feeling of being kind and inclusive. The latter is something quite valuable and within the reach of all women. The former is a dream, and it’s only a dream for an elite few among women.

Is she right? Here’s the way it should work (Pointer to Other Bill):

High school senior Heaven Fitch, of Uwharrie Charter ( North Carolina), became the first female to win one of the association’s individual state wrestling championships The Teenager won the 106 pound (48 kg) weight class at the 1A division on Saturday. Overall, she was one of only three female wrestlers in the tournament.”

I kept waiting for the story to reveal that she was a 38 year-old former man who had begun “transitioning.” No, Carrie is just a talented athlete who chose to compete at the highest level she could, fair and square.


25 thoughts on ““Thank God It’s Friday!” Ethics Amen, 2/28/2020: Will Women Give Up Sports? Does Joe Biden Know What “Arrest” Means? Do Kids Really Think Sitting In The Car Is Fun?, And Other Important Questions…

  1. 1. This really isn’t a legitimate response, but the list brings to mind three words…Kick the Can. We played that SO many summer nights after dark I couldn’t count…and we had more fun. One night the Woolsey boys came over and played with us. Steve (a little older and a little bigger) and I were running for the can in the dark from opposite ends of the house. He and I met at full speed about ten feet from the can…it took me about week to get up from that collision. That’s some good memories right there…

  2. On point one I understand her ideas but not the examples. As for free range child rearing we have discussed the ethics and legalities here. Not all communities believe children can be left alone without adult supervision at any time. As for 10 being the age acceptable for free ranging I know when I was in 1st grade my brothers and I would go into the woods and build forts. Now, parents would never let kids at that age play unsupervised in a woods When I lived in Harford County I used to walk a mile to the Gunpowder River to fish at 8 years old and by 10 I was getting on the MTA bus and going all over Baltimore City after we moved back to the city. Sure, the distances grew and routes became more complex as I got older but getting on the #3 bus and traveling downtown to the Pratt library was a no brainer.

    How many remember the Vacuform toy that got pulled because a few idiots touched the heating element. I had one and never got seriously burned. It was a favorite of mine. It became useless when I could no longer get the plastic sheets needed. Lawn darts are an example of toys that when misused are dangerous much like firearms. The anti gun forces are attempting to use the same arguments that the government must ensure you are not acting irresponsibly and the only way to do that is to ban their production and sale.

    Seat belts are a different matter. The original design of seatbelts inflicted numerous pelvic injuries on wearers which caused many not to wear them. The shoulder harness with auto tensioners were the technolgical advance, in terms of safety , equivalent to the biplane and jet travel. Nonetheless, it was government that mandated their use. I don’t recall any of my peers parents leave kids in the car while they went shopping. I do recall one family when I was 20 did chronically leave kids in the back of their truck on Fridays at the bar where he cashed his paycheck and tossed back a beer or twelve. This family were nice white people but no one I knew would invite them to events because of substantial “cultural differences”.

    The issue is lost choices because of government regulations. I would suggest that Ms Fox may actually be too young to really understand the issue and is searching for examples. Unfortunately, she chose some very poor ones.

    • After reading Ms Fox’s piece the last paragraph sums it all up. She is saying saying the government is behaving in a contraditory manner. The child is free to get abortions and use gender altering chemicals without parental supervision but leave the child alone until mom or dad comes home from work you can expect a visit from child pritective services.

  3. But don’t you know that letting your kids run free in the park is the result of white privilege?

    We played in the neighborhood until evening, even in the back woods (until some kid tried to jump the pond with his bike and didn’t make it all the way across. All the kids were banned from the woods then).

    My dad used to put the seat down in our station wagon and drive down hills fast so that we would slide around the back (no seat belts!) and our stomachs would drop. It was super fun (and awfully dangerous!).

    We had no playground in our neighborhood. In my husband’s neighborhood, there were huge metal slides and swingsets. When he was not even three years old, he climbed up the side of the slide like the other kids were doing, fell off and down about 4 feet and hit the grass. He was shaken up, but that was it.

    My Facebook friends love the memes that talk about stuff we survived in the ’70s like the above (and peanut butter, lead paint, toys with small parts, etc). The truth is that we were lucky. That kid could have been killed when he landed in the pond, my father could have gotten us all seriously injured or killed driving fast downhill while we slid all over the back of the car and my mother-in-law was fortunate she didn’t have huge medical bills (or worse, funeral bills) when her 2-year old son fell off the slide.

    There’s a reason lead paint is taboo, seat belts are required and small toy parts are discouraged. Some parents weren’t so lucky and lost their kids.

    My parents didn’t smoke and we didn’t live in a neighborhood with a store within walking distance so we never got to do the legwork for Mom or Dad to buy them cigarettes. But my mom did let us sit in the car while she shopped. Borrrrrrring.

    But you are absolutely right about babysitting. I’ve only done it a handful of times in my life (only a couple of times as a teenager) and it is not fun at all.

    2. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
    3. What is it with these Democrats? Hillary Clinton didn’t come under live fire, Liz Warren wasn’t fired for being pregnant and Joe Biden was never arrested in South Africa! Did they all take tips from Matt Lauer?
    4. I wonder why feminists aren’t up in arms over the destruction of women’s sports?

    • 4, A.M, I think Ann Althouse is onto something, don’t you: “Today, the pressure to be empathetic toward transgenders is so great that I believe women, known for our empathy and our desire to appear compassionate, will let go of competitive sports and return to the inclinations that dominated back in the days when I went to high school. It’s a trade-off, a trade-off between the potential for athletic victory and the feeling of being kind and inclusive.” It’s a catch twenty-two. It’s just not nice to want to exclude anyone. Progressive women have to be inclusive and not exclusive. Of course, this is a case of reduction ad absurdum. It reminds me of the Pulse Nightclub massacre in Orlando. Gays murdered by an Muslim! Yikes! What to do? These are insoluble problems when victims are in conflict.

      By the way, I LOVE the photo Jack included of the girl wrestler and the three guys she outperformed. She’s got that beautiful, happy smile on her face. Completely unaffected. Just happy. Pure joy. Meanwhile, the young guys are either angry and embarrassed or simply sporting the glum, serious. JOCK faces we all felt obligated affect as high school kids whenever we were in a photo. Look at any high school year book. from any era. Hilarious. Fortunately, most of those guys will grow up and learn to look like themselves. That girl, like most girls, is way out in front on that front as well.

      Barring some major changes, girls’ and women’s sports are on life support. Pretty soon, it’s just going to be sports. Wanna be a pro golfer? Have at it girls. Play with the boys and try to make a living at it! PS, the checks are bigger.

  4. Megan Fox can’t touch my childhood! Some of my favorite teenage memories are weekend camping, fishing and hunting trips with small groups of my friends, most of whom are friends to this day. We hiked or biked (every bike was a “mountain bike” then) all over the ridges and valleys of nearby forests owned by a large paper company. Their caretakers knew us all by name and gave us free rein because we didn’t damage or litter their property. Without adult supervision, we didn’t hurt each other or anyone else, and as teens we usually were armed with .22 rifles or shotguns. Our parents always knew where we were going and when we expected to return. We were all farm kids and it really was a different world here during that time. (I am 66) I am so thankful for my rural upbringing.

  5. 1) I’ve got thoughts on this and am hoping to composing something long form.

    Summary of course is that alot of what we remember from childhood is *VERY VERY* fogged. We remember all these times that “mom and dad had no idea what we were up to” really meant “we were stupid kids and had no awareness of the fact that mom and dad were checking up on us and generally did know what we were doing”.

    A lot of these stories are super type-cast to our individual upbringings and NOT some cookie cutter approach across our incredibly diverse nation. I saw her list and recognized several categories of lifestyle (which are all going to be exactly the same categories every one of you had) –

    category 1: Yep, I remember something similar as a child and now that I’m an adult, given the circumstances of my community, I’d never let my child do that, and now I wonder if my parents shouldn’t have let me do that or maybe the circumstances of our community was different.

    category 2: Hell No, I didn’t do that as a child, that would have been grossly insane and thank goodness my parents didn’t let me do that, why did yours (if they actually did or are you merely remembering one time you did something and feel like that’s how it always was)???

    category 3: Yep, I did something similar as a child, and I’d totally let my kid do it as well.

    category 4: No, I didn’t do that as a child, I don’t recall if it’s because my parents said no or because I had other interests, but I wouldn’t hold my kid back from such an experience now, given my community’s circumstances.

    And other categories.

  6. Jack,

    “Babysitting was (and still is) a way to make money. Anyone who thought it was “fun” was weird.”

    Or they were good at it and liked kids, jerk.


    • I like kids…but I’d never call parenting “fun.” I like stage directing, but when my mother, among others, called it something I did for fun, I would get ticked off. Responsibility is many things—challenging, rewarding, educational—but I don’t trust anyone whose primary reaction is that it’s “fun.”

      My mother never directed a show, and your facile comment leads me to believe you never babysat for, say, a group of three kids including an apparently neglected five year old who wanted to be hugged and cuddled constantly. I did. Not fun…unless one is, as a i said, weird.

      • It wasn’t fun to you; it doesn’t make it objectively un-fun. So, again, thanks asshole. You seem to make regular sport of “yuck”ing other people’s “yum”s.

        • Are you TRYING to get bounced. Neil? (Again?)
          I explained why it isn’t and shouldn’t be “fun,’ and you didn’t answer my question: Have you actually babysat, or are you just posturing? I actually did some informal polling on this. So far, I’ve found no one who thought of babysitting as fun.

          • If it was fun, it is very unlikely you’d be ge getting paid for it or receive privileges for it if it was your own family. My students nanny for $20 an hour and often feel underpaid. That’s a sure sign almost no one thinks it to be fun.

            • Yes, this was one of the points I was going to make to Neil, until I decided that I had sock drawers to organize. How do we decide what a fun activity is? I’ll pay to have fun; if something isn’t fun, I get paid.If someone told me that babysitting was so much fun that they volunteered to do it for free, that would be strong evidence that it was fun, but nobody did this.

          • Jack,

            I babysat quite regularly throughout high school and college and it paid for any number of text-books. In addition, to those of us who love children and seldom had weekend plans, it provided a diversion from one’s own loneliness in exchange for basking in the esteem of a child. Also, most of these folks had nicer homes with bigger televisions, and children with earlier bed-times. Whether that counts as “fun” is open to semantic debate, I suppose. But it’s something I looked forward to and found immensely rewarding. So, yes, quite enjoyable.

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