President Trump Has Never Tweeted Anything Nearly As Unethical As This…

Translation: “Elect me, or we’ll burn down your cities.”

No, Joe, we know your party and its followers have devolved into violent totalitarian thugs, who, as they have proved since 2016, are incapable of accepting the results of elections, or the responsibilities of democracy. we know if they lose, they will be violent.

I know you’re suffering from cognitive decline, and I’m genuinely sorry about that. It’s not your fault, but it is your fault that you are still running for President when you are physically incapable of doing the job. Maybe that’s why you tweeted such a cretinous, offensive message that demonstrates such ignorance of the American character. Nikita Khrushchev could have sent a message to Americans when cowards here were chanting, “Better Red Than Dead,”  “Does anyone believe that that there will be less death and destruction if America keeps opposing us?”

But he was smarter than that.

How tragic that you’re not.

76 thoughts on “President Trump Has Never Tweeted Anything Nearly As Unethical As This…

  1. He was and remains a political slug devoid of any spine who reveals his true nature from time to time which exposes his slimy character.

  2. “President Trump Has Never Tweeted Anything Nearly As Unethical As This…”

    Oh I don’t know about that.

    The loose cannon unethical mouthed President Trump has tweeted so damn many unethical things that the law of chance is there has got to be one that’s equal or more unethical as that one from Biden (which is really freaking bad) but I can’t think of what that unethical equal tweet from the President might be. I bet someone who has tracked all the crap President Trump has written will be able to come up with something pretty darn close.

  3. That statement shows a real disconnect from what’s going on in the United States right now. If people are really paying attention to what’s going on in the United States then no one in their right mind would believe that there will be less violence in the United States no matter who is elected President in November 2020.

    Also, take note of the FACT that Joe Biden can’t call President Trump by his elected title “President Trump”, or even “the President”, instead he calls him Donald Trump. This man doesn’t appear to respect the office of the President of the United States.

  4. It just struck me that Joe Biden’s statement has the same connotation but used different words as the statement from the chairman of Black Lives Matter of Greater New York, Hawk Newsome who said…

    “If this country doesn’t give us what we want, then we will burn down this system and replace it”

    .

    If President Trump simply calling COVID-19 the “China Virus” is considered a subtle racist call to action to violently attack Chinese people then this Tweet from Joe Biden’s is an openly seditious dog whistle calling violent people that opposed President Trump to action if President Trump wins reelection.

    • No coordination necessary. Ethics aside there was nothing subtle about Biden’s threat. I saw Tucker Carlson repeat my comment above verbatim, five minutes after I made it, which in turn paraphrased Jack’s post.

    • Actually, It is just that damn obvious. If you want to talk about coordinated talking points just look at the MSM when the word “empathy” to describe Joe was used.

    • Ok, ok, so… Either…. Either…. Stay with me… Either…. This is all a vast right wing conspiracy, and Ben Shapiro is coordinating his messages with Comfortably Smug….. Or…. OR…. And I know this is out there, but just stay with me for a second…. OR…. Biden’s tweet was so bad that it was recognized as bad by more than one person.

      The fact is that this is the evolution of the Democrat pitch for the White House; A year ago, it was the “return to normalcy” pitch; Gee look, this president is a gongshow, his presidency is not normal, vote for us. This had the benefit of being mostly true. The context is that an amount of the abnormalcy, and we could argue out just how much, but invariably *some* of the abnormalcy was the Democrat’s own making. They were basically saying “Vote for us and we’ll replace the President with someone who doesn’t tweet at 2AM, that person will also push policies we like, and therefore we will not need to act like giant man babies.”

      The return to normalcy pitch is basically the same as it was a year ago, but now it comes with a whole lot more baggage; the democrats have spent the entire election cycle spewing hate, and pushing narratives that span from conspiracy theories to outright bald-faced lies. People are dying over these narratives. I don’t particularly care whether the people dying are police, protesters, counter protesters, counter-counter protesters, bystanders or dog walkers… We’re spending lives in defense of narratives. This is political violence on a scale I haven’t seen in my lifetime. And make no mistake: Democrats are responsible for this. And so the context has changed from “Look at this Gongshow of a President, you should replace him with someone less gongy” to “Look at all these fires. We should stop them, right? I mean, look at that city over there, with all those stores and all that breakable glass…. It’d be a damn shame if something happened to it.”

    • “Coordination of a talking point” = noticing obvious thing that’s happening.

      Nice gaslighting.

      I thought exactly the same when Biden began tweeting similar but less blatant sentiments LAST WEEK. I’m not on any secret Conservative Talking Points mailing list.

  5. I read Anne Althouse’s blog of Biden’s speech/statement and it occurred to me that Biden tacitly admits the unrest serves his interests and will turn off the heat if he is elected. If not, look out for four more years of unbridled violence.

    jvb

  6. Given the content of the two dominant political parties, we are doomed as a country. The democrats are supporting the BLM movement and the rioters thinking these radicals can be controlled after the Dems win. They are idiots. Name one radical group who after gaining power willingly relinquished that power.

    The Republican politicians are not much better with very few exceptions they have the spine of a garden slug. I don’t hear very many denouncing or the unrest sweeping many cities. I don’t hear them proposing action to quell the violence. Most Republican politicians are hunkering down hoping not to be noticed. For four years they have been more than happy to have President Trump suffer relentless attacks; happy the Dems and media were not going after them.

    As bad as these two parties are, I don’t see things getting better anytime soon because it is the brain-dead electorate continually putting these idiots and cowards in office again and again. Pogo’s comment “we have met the enemy and he is us” seems to apply in this context too.

    • And there it is.

      Murder people causing protests.

      Use protests to justify fascist violence claiming it’s to protect people against radicals.

      I’ve seen this playbook used somewhere before.

      • Riot uncontrollably. Rip public art apart. Trash those designated with keeping order. Try to overthrow the existing system. Point the finger for every problem at one group. Lie lie lie. Start killing your political opponents. I’ve seen this playbook used somewhere too. BLM = Bolshevik Lie Makers.

      • Are you suggesting Derek Chauvin was sent there by Trump to intentionally kill George Floyd on tape? Really, I’m trying to understand what “murder people causing protests…to justify fascist violence” means in this context.

        • Simple, Dan. A cop in a Democrat-dominated city, in a Democrat-governed state, mistreated a man with a long criminal record who was already on the cusp of dying. A Democrat DA buried the fact that this man was already on the cusp of dying and a Democrat AG overcharged the officers involved. A Democrat mayor stood by and didn’t do boo as a police precinct was destroyed and the streets went to anarchy and destruction. Then a bunch of other Democrat mayors and governors let the violence and destruction spread, did nothing to quell it, often prevented those whose job it was to quell it from doing their jobs, and in some cases even encouraged it, only changing their mind when it came to their doorsteps. Then they refused aid from the Federal government in quelling it, in some cases even attacking the president or spending time and taxpayer money tweaking his nose with publicly-funded graffiti. Then a bunch of Democrat DAs decided they wouldn’t prosecute those who did get arrested during this explosion of violence. However, it’s all Trump’s fault.

          You remember back in middle school and high school how you all used to bully the one unpopular kid? Maybe his family didn’t do as well as most others. Maybe he had no sense of style. Maybe he was a little behind the curve. It doesn’t really matter why, everyone hated him and bullied him. I bet after you viciously slammed his head against the locker and left him with a bump the size of a grapefruit you told him that if he just tried to fit in these things wouldn’t happen, as if that smashing pain in his head and dizziness just happened like a migraine. I bet after you punched him so hard in the stomach that you doubled him over you said something to the effect of one day he would annoy you so much you’d REALLY have to hurt him, as he struggled to stay standing and gasped for breath. Maybe you really believed the bullshit you were saying, but the fact really was that you hated him because you hated him, and everything bad that happened was his fault because it couldn’t be anyone else’s.

          • You remember back in middle school and high school how you all used to bully the one unpopular kid? Maybe his family didn’t do as well as most others. Maybe he had no sense of style. Maybe he was a little behind the curve. It doesn’t really matter why, everyone hated him and bullied him. I bet after you viciously slammed his head against the locker and left him with a bump the size of a grapefruit you told him that if he just tried to fit in these things wouldn’t happen, as if that smashing pain in his head and dizziness just happened like a migraine. I bet after you punched him so hard in the stomach that you doubled him over you said something to the effect of one day he would annoy you so much you’d REALLY have to hurt him, as he struggled to stay standing and gasped for breath. Maybe you really believed the bullshit you were saying, but the fact really was that you hated him because you hated him, and everything bad that happened was his fault because it couldn’t be anyone else’s.

            That’s really the sort of thing to discuss with your therapist. Maybe she’ll help you see that falling in with cops–people who see little difference between non-conformity and criminality–hasn’t filled the emotional hole inside you. Going from abused to abuser won’t help the next Steve-O, it’ll just change what criteria is used to choose him.

            Be best. 🙂

            • valkygrrl wrote, “cops–people who see little difference between non-conformity and criminality”

              There we have it in a nice little nutshell; valkygrrl thinks all cops are irrational people that can’t make rational determinations as to what is and is not criminal behavior.

              How am I supposed to read that any other way?

                • Typically that’s what happens. Police officers don’t beat or abuse people just because they can, no matter what you’ve seen on NYPD Blue (where Andy Sipowicz knees a cuffed suspect in the groin) or Chicago PD (where Hank Voight smashes someone’s hand with a pool cue).

                  • I didn’t watch either of those shows. No swords, spaceships, no care.

                    So this is what you say is typical and is just fine by you. A man with his hands up is tazed then kicked in the back and wrestled to the ground while another officer goes after the woman recording.

                    Yeah… No. I’m not okay with this.

                    • Frankly, I think a lot of cops show more restraint than they need to. There isn’t always time to talk a suspect down, and sometimes you just have to pull someone’s hair and cuff him. That said, the idea is to take the person into custody, not inflict maximum pain or humiliation. You start rioting, though, and destroying what’s not yours to destroy, and all bets are off.

                    • valkygrrl wrote, “A man with his hands up is tazed then kicked in the back…”

                      First, the man was NOT tazed.

                      Second, the video is cherry picked tunnel vision and does not show the context of the encounter, meaning we are NOT shown what led up to this moment. In the real world, context matters.

                    • valkygrrl wrote, “another officer goes after the woman recording.”

                      I get the impression that you wrote that as if the officer was going after her because she was recording; the other officer went after the woman recording because she was getting out of the car in an apparent effort to get directly involved.

                • valkygrrl wrote, “Is this rational?”

                  It doesn’t appear to be appropriate but I there is not enough in the video to actually determine if it’s “rational”.

                  That said; do you condemn nearly 700,000 full time police officers in the United States based on the actions of that one officer in that one video or the few verifiable bad cops out there? Condemning all 700,000 full time police officers based on the actions of 0.00014% of police officers is not rational.

                  • If you’d said the same thing when protesters and everyone to your left get blamed right here on ethics alarms I might not now think you argue in bad faith.

                    • valkygrrl wrote, “If you’d said the same thing when protesters and everyone to your left get blamed right here on ethics alarms I might not now think you argue in bad faith.”

                      Since you are accusing me of arguing in bad faith I need you to support that accusation with real facts. If you can’t do so, then apologize to me.

                    • Judging by the complete lack of response; it appears that valkygrrl has nothing to support the claim that I’m arguing in bad faith so I can caulk this one up as another hive minded progressive making up an unsupportable accusation about someone that directly challenges her rhetoric, just another attack the messenger ad hominem from another progressive, it’s become so damned typical that it’s almost laughable! Also valkygrrl can’t seem muster up a moment of integrity an honestly apologize for the false accusation.

                  • What’s interesting is that none of the other officers at this scene seemed to think there was a problem. When the police act gang like in defense of the other cops regardless of conduct, when they paint anyone who blows a whistle on another officer as a “rat” and ostracize them, and when they join a union that obstructs any disciple, then yes, I consider all cops worthy of group condemnation.

                    I’m most definitely not a defund the cops advocate. Until we have a much needed reform in law enforcement, they’re a necessary evil. Sadly, the current course of action is highly unlikely to reform the police.

                    • Matthew B wrote, “What’s interesting is that none of the other officers at this scene seemed to think there was a problem.”

                      What’s really interesting is that there are people willing to condemn the officers based on an eighteen second video that doesn’t show the context of the Officer’s actions. Need less assumptions and more facts but the court of public opinion doesn’t give a damn about having all the facts, they just want to destroy the police.

                      Matthew B wrote, “…they join a union that obstructs any disciple…”

                      Here is a point that we can agree on and it’s a REAL problem. The unions enable the few bad cops, and those bad cops give the rest of the cops a bad name, and cop haters everywhere rationalize their hate for all cops based on the actions of a few bad cops.

            • Never assume a therapist is female, truth be told I specifically requested a male therapist. Putting that aside, that is a pretty over-simplified view of the police. I personally oversaw the removal of 20 police officers for various causes, but only one displayed that kind of tendency (dragged a woman from her car and beat her in broad daylight because she wasn’t moving fast enough).

              • Do you concede that we might not agree on what’s disqualifying?

                Let’s use an example from fiction so no humans get harmed in this discussion.

                Remember this line from Blade Runner? “You know the score, pal. You’re not cop, you’re little people!”

                If a cop of yours displayed that attitude would you consider it a problem?

                • To ask that first question is to answer it. Oh, I worked on such a case, although I was not the lead attorney. There ARE no little people. That said, let’s not forget that activists display the same attitude toward ordinary folks who get caught up in this nonsense.

            • Val, I think you’re failing to see the whole picture of the US situation and that your tone here is needlessly patronizing. I don’t deny we’ve seen very bad cops but the behavior by the activist side just can’t be ignored here.

              Steve, it’s always seemed to me that some traumatic memories from your youth shape your worldview, as well as your view of individuals. I agree with Val that therapy would help. There’s no shame in that at all.

            • Please tell me how burning and looting minority owned businesses, creating food deserts for low income people due to the fires, and several black men dying or losing their livelihoods from “mostly peaceful protests” has helped anyone, especially blacks.

              But yes let’s watch out for those “fascists” who are all meenie weenie to those sweet protesters.

              • To ask that question, Mrs. Q, is to answer it. None of that is helpful to anyone, least of all black folks or other minorities. What we have now is a small-scale version of the national hangover that was the 1970s after the national bender that was the 1960s. I’ve said it again and again, once you take the golden gel off the camera and blow away the drug-induced haze, the 1960s was an insane time. No one talks about the chaos or the dark side of hippie-dom, drug-induced illness and accidents, poor hygiene that left them smelling like unwashed feet all over, or rampant rape and illegitimate children these addled idealists didn’t have the first clue about taking care of. But, hey, grooooooovy, man, right?

                Wrong. The dark side of the past few months has come out all too quickly, and the ordinary people of this country have had enough. BLM are not the heirs of MLK. They are the heirs of the Black Panthers, with twice as much hate and violence. Antfa are not the heirs of Marshall McLuhan or RFK, they’re CERTAINLY not the heirs of the men who stormed the beaches at Normandy as a few memes suggest (an insult to the WW2 vets). They are the heirs of the Weathermen and the Symbionese Liberation Army. For a few months here the ordinary people fooled themselves, and BLM was more popular than either political party.

                However, not to repeat myself, but a lot of what these people have been doing has gone a lot farther than I think it was supposed to, a lot of it has gotten not just old, but intolerable, and a lot of ordinary people aren’t willing to buy the increasingly threadbare lie about “peaceful protesters” and keep looking the other way. I don’t want the windows of my parked car smashed, I don’t want the nearest Shop-Rite burned down, and I don’t want the local Target and Walmart looted and gutted. I certainly don’t want a fire started that burns down my whole neighborhood, takes my house, and with it a lifetime’s worth of possessions and memories because these folks still throwing a five month old tantrum won’t let the fire department attend to the blaze. I don’t want to walk past boarded up storefronts and pedestals that are empty because someone couldn’t stand that statue one more day. They aren’t reminders of freedom or that some people won’t tolerate oppression anymore. They are reminders that those whose job it is to keep order have ceded it instead.

          • My Trump junior high school-yard bully analogy is that Trump is that kid who moves into town from a strange place who everyone dislikes. You don’t like him either and shun him without bullying him, but after a month or so you realize that the biggest assholes you have been going to school with since kindergarten are bullying him mercilessly. Eventually your thoughts go from dislike to grudging respect because, while he is still not your cup of tea, he stands up for himself.

          • I can somewhat relate but not totally relate. I wasn’t in the in crowd, but at the same time I wasn’t horribly bullied in school. I’m not quick to react and escalate, but when I do I remain level headed and determined. I wasn’t a satisfying target so most of them moved on quickly.
            The interesting part of your story to me? My personal observations is that those that did the worst of the bullying grew up to be cops.

      • valkygrrl wrote…

        “And there it is.

        Murder people causing protests.

        Use protests to justify fascist violence claiming it’s to protect people against radicals.

        I’ve seen this playbook used somewhere before.

        That is what you got out of Tom P’s comment? Seriously valkygrrl, did you forget to take your “I’m smarter than this kind of nonsense pills”?

        • I doubt it. Valky’s no fool, in fact she’s pretty well-read. However, she is also probably the last remaining far left true believer here. This is actually within the realm of mainstream thinking, as much as I completely disagree with it. I’d like to think we can do better than the right calling the left Communists and the left calling the right Nazis. Actually I think it’s imperative we do better, because now things are on the verge of becoming Civil War 2.0.

          • Steve-O-in-NJ wrote, “Valky’s no fool, in fact she’s pretty well-read.”

            If that’s true then why would valkygrrl post a reply that doesn’t logically fit as a reply or extrapolation to any of the comments in this entire thread? Was valkygrrl’s reply predetermined based on bias regardless of the content of the comment she was replying to? Did valkygrrl just wake up at 2am and think, it’s time to do some early morning trolling on Ethics Alarms?

            Inquisitive people want to know why.

                • You’ve seriously never read the Farseer Trilogy? I thought you read fantasy. It even has a homophobic male protagonist who’s overentitled, angry, and commits extra-judicial killings. How did you miss it?

                  • Hmmm, maybe I’ll have to look this one up, since you’re saying this seems like my kinda guy. 😀 In fact I had to cut a sequence from my own writing in which one of the protagonists (an ambitious, over honor-conscious knight with way too much pride) defeats a pair of knights who are a couple, finishing with a pithy comment about their lifestyle.

                    • I won’t tell you how to create your art.

                      I’ll offer a very general piece of advice that you can do with what you will.

                      If a line gives you a spiteful jolt of pleasure, you’re probably better off without it.

                      We both fail that one pretty often.

                    • Great general advice, to be balanced against the hanging softball over the middle of the plate that demands to be hit out of the park or lined back at the pitcher’s head. I have a friend, a lawyer and singer—call him “Jim”— who has a well-deserved and admired rep for taking the swing. Most infamous is when a group of us went to a dinner theater show starring a friend. The production and performances were terrible, and afterwards we had the familiar ordeal of greeting and congratulating a friend who just took part in a debacle..in other words, lying. So we are all being kind and choosing our words carefully, and the deluded star says, “I’m so glad you saw this performance; it really was the best so far.” And my friend swings from the heels, and blurts out what we all were thinking, “Then we’re sure as hell glad we didn’t see those OTHER performances!” The crushed look on the face of our “star” friend was priceless, pathetic, and hilarious all in one.. I did an about face and took three steps away so he wouldn’t see me laughing.

                      I asked Jim about his line. “I just couldn’t let that one go by,” he said. “I never would have forgiven myself.”

                    • Ah, so I should probably eliminate the line in a Clancy-esque story about American participation in a South Asian war in which an American Ranger shoots an Indian tower sentry (you know the tower guy is always toast) in the forehead while using a red laser sight and says “Ha ha, now the dot’s PERMANENT, you sonofabitch!” 😀

                      Yeah, I think I’ve failed the spite test a lot, and I don’t think I’m going to get a job writing for Ah-nuld. (Knock knock! Stick around!)

              • valkygrrl wrote, “Don’t listen to him, maybe I am The Fool.”

                You conveniently didn’t answer my question, “why would [you] post a reply that doesn’t logically fit as a reply or extrapolation to any of the comments in this entire thread?”

                Inquisitive people want to know why.

          • Well read, pshaw.

            I’ve only read nine books published in 2020 and eight of them were fiction. (And the other was Mary Trump’s unimpressive entry.)

      • valkygrrl,
        You’re trolling deflection did its job, no one is talking about Biden’s comment anymore. It takes real skill as an internet troll to completely shift the conversation away from the original topic.

        I believe in giving credit where credit is due; nice job.

      • No, you haven’t. Think for yourself, just once.

        In Minneapolis there was just a round of rioting because a murder suspect committed SUICIDE on the street. In Portland antifa just spazzed out over a false rumor that a Black man has been killed by a conservative. When they found out that it was a conservative who had been shot down in the street, they literally danced in the streets. They did not know anything about the victim; just that he wasn’t one of theirs.

        There is no conspiracy to “murder people” “causing” riots. There’s just the far Left rioting because they’be been trained to for years.

        Lest you forget, this started in 2012 and later with Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown. Did you sense a fascist conspiracy by Obama then?

  7. I must be one of the few people who read that tweet as saying “Donald Trump claims that if you elect me that the violence will continue. Since this is already happening under Trump, why do you (and Trump) think it will stop if he’s re-elected?” I don’t see this as a threat or anything at all. Trump has been talking about how if we elect Biden there will be anarchy and rioting in the streets. Kind of like there is… now? So Biden logically follows with “do you really believe that?” I have to say it made sense to me when I saw it.

    • Keith wrote…

      “I must be one of the few people who read that tweet as saying “Donald Trump claims that if you elect me that the violence will continue. Since this is already happening under Trump, why do you (and Trump) think it will stop if he’s re-elected?” I don’t see this as a threat or anything at all. Trump has been talking about how if we elect Biden there will be anarchy and rioting in the streets. Kind of like there is… now? So Biden logically follows with “do you really believe that?” I have to say it made sense to me when I saw it.”

      Enter the spin factory.

    • Keith, If Trump is reelected why would he want to continue the violence. BTW the violence is also occurring under a Democrat led House of Representatives whose members are on tape telling constituents if you see Trump people at a gas station or in the market “Get in their faces and create a crowd” give them no peace. One man cannot turn the tide of social unrest alone. More importantly, he cannot turn the tide when a majority in the House created and fuel the problems you are holding him accountable.

      So according to your logic, Biden means he will call off the dogs the Dems unleashed on society unless he is elected. Of course there will be less violence if Biden is elected because his party is controlling some of it.

      • Chris Marschner wrote, “Of course there will be less violence if Biden is elected because his party is controlling some of it.”

        The Democrats are out of their minds if they think they are controlling some of it. You bet they are enabling it but controlling any of it, no! They have no “control” of what’s happening they just agree with parts of it thus enabling all of it. Agreeing and/or Enabling ≠ Controlling.

        The core of the violence is not partisan Democrats waging a insurrection against partisan Republicans it’s social justice warrior anarchists literally saying “If this country doesn’t give us what we want, then we will burn down this system and replace it” and they’re backing up their sedition and subversion with actions in our streets, schools, colleges, board rooms, etc. They are attacking every corner of our society with their totalitarian intimidation tactics.

        If the Democrats think they have any control whatsoever over this social justice totalitarian movement they are delusional.

        • Let us not forget that they actually oppose doing something about the violence.

          http://pjmedia.com/election/tyler-o-neil/2020/07/22/as-antifa-terrorizes-portland-biden-claims-trump-is-attacking-peaceful-protesters-n670345

          Rather than acknowledging the violence and destruction in that city — which have carried on for 54 nights — Biden slammed federal officers, claiming they were “brutally attacking peaceful protesters” in service of President Donald Trump’s “political interests.” His statement did not even mention the firing of mortars at police officers and at the federal courthouse or the brief “autonomous zone” that emerged in Portland earlier this month.

          “We have a president who is determined to sow chaos and division. To make matters worse instead of better,” Biden began. “We all remember the appalling scenes in front of the White House, when peaceful protestors were gassed to make way for a Trump photo op. Now Homeland Security agents — without a clearly defined mandate or authority — are ranging far from federal property, stripped of badges and insignia and identifying markings, to detain people.”

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