46 thoughts on “Open Forum!

  1. Ethics dunce: Chuck Schumer. (Probably just had to say Chuck Schumer without the intro). He has known since July what Joe Manchin’s top line number was for the Dem’s agenda bill and has not shared that knowledge in spite of all the attacks on Sen Manchin for not letting the progressives (a misnomer if I have ever heard one) know his constraints. And kudos to Joe Manchin, I suppose, for not publicly airing this failure of Schumer — although some might argue that Manchin is also an ethics dunce for not correcting the public perception that he was hiding his position.

    • And the macro issue: this is why our infrastructure is falling apart in chunks. The acceptance of the need to repair and upgrade should be bi-partisan, and loading controversial social justice projects and entitlements onto the list just raises the cost and guarantees gridlock.

      • None of the politicians care. They are only interested in denying the other side a win. Unfortunately, that means we ordinary people lose.

  2. Squid Game on Netflix. That’s the subject, who’s seen it? Maybe we shouldn’t talk about it yet since I haven’t even finished it, I’m through episode 7 of 10. Can I get a few people to watch and let’s have a separate post just for that!

    • (shrug) Are you surprised? BTW, I saw you on another blog butting heads with fattymoon and Chris, both of whom are still idiots, and you can tell them I said that.

      • Steve-O-in-NJ wrote, “(shrug) Are you surprised? BTW, I saw you on another blog butting heads with fattymoon and Chris, both of whom are still idiots, and you can tell them I said that.”

        I pretty darn sure that they are both still readers here and quite likely scroll through the comments to find out what the commenters they remember are saying, I don’t think anyone as obsessed with Jack and Ethics Alarms as those two were would be able to let go. Yes I just wrote that both Chris & fattymoon are obsessed with Jack and Ethics Alarms.

        • Actually this was windypundit’s blog (another expatriate). Chris called Alizia a “blatant white supremacist” and me a “murderous psychopath.” He also freely admitted that after Jack suspended him for mocking him wrt the Mueller report, he emailed Jack and told him that no apology would be forthcoming because he didn’t do anything wrong, and what Jack said was worthy of being laughed at. He also gave his full name, but I won’t resort to doxing. I will stand by my previous statement that he is an arrogant, smug idiot whose , but I didn’t think he was so much of one that he would email Jack and not only openly defy him but openly insult him.

          • Mark Draughn, aka Windypundit, is a mysterious obsessed expatriate. I’ve tried to figure out what sent him over the edge, but it is a mystery: he was very well-treated here, never banned, never even harshly responded to. I once named him ethics blogger of the year—now he posts hate screeds about me. While he commented here, he never was so vociferous.

            • I’m still of the opinion Chris is a paid Democratic party operative. Unrelentingly vicious. A Democratic party talking point Gatling gun.

              • Could be. I remember in my days of posting on musical artist websites it later came to light that some of their fiercest defenders were in fact record company operatives who were paid to come on the sites and post “he’s/she’/they’re the greatest” posts or attack anyone who was critical of the artist. His subsequent posts at these other sites do not seem to bear that out, though.

              • Other Bill wrote, “I’m still of the opinion Chris is a paid Democratic party operative. Unrelentingly vicious.”

                No way he’s a paid Democratic party operative unless you consider a card carrying member of the California Association of Trolling Teachers as being paid for by the Democratic party. Plus he’s just not intelligent enough to be paid for his rhetoric, in my opinion, he’s just a biased stupid parroting internet troll.

                Other Bill wrote, “A Democratic party talking point Gatling gun.”

                Yup, that one fits Chris perfectly.

            • Basically he said you had become increasingly authoritarian and were making too many proofreading errors. He also said I had advocated for solving problems with literal death squads. That’s NOT what I said, I said this nation needed to put together a task force to end the internal threat by folks like Antifa, but eh, facts don’t matter.

              • How is someone “authoritarian” on a blog?

                Oh, he’s upset abut proofreading? I guess he stays away from Prof. Turley, too. In fact, there are fewer typos than ever, thanks to all the editing help I get from Other Bill, Pennagain, and others.

                • He thought you were defending Trump too much and being too intolerant of criticism of your defense. I think he also thought you were slipping qualitatively the angrier you got. It’s frankly bs, same as Keith, who said you had just become another angry old white guy.

                  • I’ve lost at least four what I thought were longtime, good friends because I was not suitably apoplectic about Trump’s very existence. Completely unanticipated. And weird. Anyone who can’t understand how Trump came to be elected is intentionally self-deluded and simply not paying attention.

            • Jack wrote, “I’ve tried to figure out what sent him over the edge, but it is a mystery…”

              Here’s your answer in Mark Draughn, aka Windypundit’s words…

              “And I’m not biased against Jack Marshall, I’m angry at him.

              I read his blog for years, and I liked it. Jack and I disagree on a number of important subjects — the war on drugs, immigration policy, the nature and prevalence of racism, the relationship between law and ethics, the duties citizens owe to their government — but despite our disagreement, I’ve spoken well of Jack here on several occasions, and I’ve defended Jack to other people (which may even have contributed to my getting kicked out of another blog). As I’ve said before, Jack understood that he was in a conversation, and he did blogging right.

              But at some point that began to change. The Trump era seems to have brought it out in him. He’s rightly critical of a lot of stupid criticism of Trump, but he also attacks a lot of criticism that seems dead-on to me. He says Trump’s enemies are suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome, but he himself seems quite deranged in his attacks on Trump’s enemies. He has became less tolerant of dissent and less nuanced in his thinking, and the lack of collegiality has made it a lot harder to stomach his rhetoric on issues where we disagree.

              I feel a bit betrayed by all this. I feel like I wasted a lot of time contributing to a blog that is no longer worth it, and I feel it would be a waste of my time to continue to contribute to his blog the way it is. To address these issues as comments on his blog, I would have to be a lot more critical of him personally, rather than just addressing the issues, and that would have gotten me kicked off. So I did it here.”

              Mark Draughn, aka Windypundit
              October 14, 2020 at 9:16 pm

              Mark also wrote in another comment in that same thread “I get angry when people say things I disagree with when I care strongly about the subject.” to which I replied “That statement from you is truly signature significant. How dare someone disagree with you on a topic that you care strongly about!

              • Ironic: he’s a classic Trump Derangement case himself. I am wrong sometimes, but I have seldom been as right as I was about the four years of mistreatment of Donald Trump after his election, what it signified, and how damaging it was….I’m still waiting for a single accuser of mine on that score to acknowledge it.

            • Chris said, wrt this subject:

              “I made the decision to violate the rules, and (with a few exceptions that I regret) chose to accept the consequences of them. I e-mailed Jack letting him know there would be no apology, as I had nothing to apologize for. His statement that the Trump administration could be trusted to investigate the Trump campaign without a special counsel was objectively laughable. He deserved to be laughed at. I laughed at him knowing I would be banned, and did so because it was worth it.

              Jack made the decision on what the rules of his blog should be and how to enforce them. Those rules were ethically incoherent. It was against Jack’s rules to laugh at Jack, but not against the rules for a Nazi to use Jack’s website to recruit more Nazis. It was not against the rules for Steve-O to advocate secret police and death squads, or for him to tell me that he was glad to hear my wife and I couldn’t have children, a fact I had shared with the blog some time before.

              Jack believes it is worse to laugh at Jack than it is to be a white supremacist or a misogynistic fascist. It is his right to hold those beliefs and to choose to run his blog accordingly. It is my right to criticize those beliefs and choices–not on Ethics Alarms, but here and wherever else I am allowed to do so.

              He doesn’t know shit about ethics. That’s not a smear; that’s a valid conclusion based on the evidence.”

              One word: Asshole. Pompous. Arrogant. Smug. Asshole with the maturity level of a seventh grader. I could spew ill wishes on him, but I think doing that after pointing out his immaturity would be hypocritical.

          • Let me correct myself, he called me a “misogynistic psychopath.” Ha! I’ve known and worked with too many women to hate the entire gender. I have many female friends and colleagues. I actually saved one of my best friends, a woman in OH, from killing herself this past February. I was with another good female friend when her sister (also by all accounts a terrific person, who unfortunately I didn’t get to get to know) died of cancer at 43 on Christmas night three years ago. Unfortunately, due to my Asperger’s, which wasn’t even a diagnosis until well after I graduated college and which I didn’t even know I had until about 9 years ago, I was not able to date or form conventional relationships. I’d be lying if I said I was not unhappy about that. But I don’t hate all women. Admittedly, I have been very nasty to some (mostly two) women here who sometimes make it VERY hard to want to be polite or nice to them. Sometimes I’ve turned the temperature up instead of down, maybe even WAY up. However, hating a whole gender? Nuh uh.

        • “I pretty darn sure that they are both still readers here and quite likely scroll through the comments to find out what the commenters they remember are saying, I don’t think anyone as obsessed with Jack and Ethics Alarms as those two were would be able to let go. Yes I just wrote that both Chris & fattymoon are obsessed with Jack and Ethics Alarms.”

          It’s quite nice when someone like Chris, aka Beetlejuice, allows his obsession to overcome common sense and provides proof that what I wrote was true with his own actions. Chris has forgotten, or never learned that it’s better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.

          Chris; congratulations to you and your wife for your up coming first born, seriously, I mean that. It’s life changing and sometimes it even morphs your core ideology! Something to think about over the next few years is ; as your child grows over the next 10 years or so see if you can and your wife notice the similarities between the emotional childishness behaviors you see from your child with the same behaviors that we (who are paying attention) see from 21st century “progressives” and their standing army of social justice warriors. I’m quite serious about this.

          Also Chris, what Steve wrote wasn’t racist he was sharing a caricature that’s been shared far and wide, even if it’s a relative accurate caricature it’s a petty bigoted caricature. There was no prejudiced or antagonistic language towards blacks in Steve’s statement therefore there was no racism in the statement, there was bigotry in the statement and a professional teacher that’s actually teaching our impressionable youth should know the difference between these things but you don’t seem to know these kinds of things and just blurt out false racist accusations like your ignorant social justice warrior counterparts This claim of racist words is signature significant. If you don’t think your irrational bias against those who you ideologically oppose affects what or how you teach, aka indoctrinate, your students then you’re obsessive bias has made you stupid.

          Racist: adjective, prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.

          Bigoted: adjective, obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, in particular prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.

          It’s interesting that nearly everything that comes out of the fingertips of Chris (the professional teacher) needs to be corrected because it’s wrong. Hey Chris, you’re a failure in rhetorical excellence and should pick another profession so you don’t indoctrinate your students into an irrational cult; I’d suggest driving a truck so you can leave the “progressive” tunnel vision of California so you can see and understand more of what the United States of America is all about.

          Today’s lesson is complete.

          • Is he still hung up about the battle between me, him, and valky where I angrily referred to Obama as Trump’s “poo-colored predecessor” trying to one-up them for calling Trump a shithead? Admittedly, that was something I said in the heat of anger, but let’s face it, if anyone had a gift for provoking anger, it was Chris.

    • The more I see of Rand Paul, the more there is for me to like.

      I will grant that most Senators and Congressmen use their time in hearings such as this to push their own political statements, and certainly there is an element of that in Paul’s questioning. But my sense is that the utter refusal of Fauci and others to concede that there is a facially valid opposing viewpoint has forced him to become gradually more confrontational over time.

      The utter refusal of this witness — whoever he is, exactly — to even acknowledge the question is infuriating to me. How can he claim to ‘follow the science’ when he refuses to engage in a scientific discussion.

      In some military writings, there are several categories of officers that are described. This person, it seems to me, would fall in the ‘stupid and industrious’ category, which is considered the most dangerous.

    • Funny. That’s about as far as my attention span can reach these days. I think I’m worn out by the infrastructure bill (1.5 Trillion) and the cleverly titled reconciliation bill (3.5 Trillion) shenanigans. (Why is a bill that’s intended to blow up the national debt and put everyone on the dole called by the procedure it’s to be passed with? Why isn’t it called the “Democratic party is giving away free stuff to buy votes bill?” Or the “Let’s buy votes the way they do in Mexico” bill.) People seem to think passing these disasters will be an accomplishment? Failure to pass them will doom Biden’s (er, Ron Klain’s) presidency? If they are passed, I’m thinking the Dems will lose every single congressional race in 2022.

      By the way, this is a great listen if anyone has the time. Glen Loury talking for an hour and a half to Bari Weiss. https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/wrongthink-on-race-with-glenn-c-loury He makes two of the points I’ve been pushing for quite a while: 1. The left has been driven nuts by the continued failure of poor blacks to thrive. 2. George Floyd and Michael Brown and “I can’t breath” and “hands up, don’t shoot” are “poetic narratives” that people have latched onto and have nothing to do with the objective facts. A good explanation for The Great Stupid. He also says Black Lives Matter provides absolutely no benefit whatsoever to black lives. A fascinating and blindingly articulate extemporaneous speaker, and his forte is math.

      • Well this explains it: (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/10/01/house_budget_chairman_yarmuth_the_federal_government_can_afford_anything.html

        House Budget Committee Chairman John Yarmuth told CNN’s Erin Burnett on Thursday evening that Sen. Joe Manchin’s position on limiting the $3.5 Trillion “Build Back Better” Act to $1.5 Trillion is flat out dumb.

        Manchin “has no understanding of how the federal government monetary system works,” Yarmuth said. “When he compared it yesterday to his household income, that has no relevance to what we can do.”

        “It’s not a question of what we can afford. The federal government can afford anything that it feels it needs to do,” he said.

        I feel much better now. Good to know the House budget committee chairman believes the government can in fact just print money! What? Me Worry?

      • ” I think I’m worn out by the infrastructure bill (1.5 Trillion) and the cleverly titled reconciliation bill (3.5 Trillion) shenanigans.”

        You’s need a cool-down; with that in mind, there’s SNOW a mere 302 miles/486 kms N near Flagstaff.

        • When fall falls, it falls fast. It’s really cooled off down here near the Mexican border. OB Jr. loves to ski at Sunrise. I’m surprised he hasn’t already driven up there with grandson no. 1. The Arizona watersheds have been getting good rain all summer. Would we could say the same for the Colorado River watershed. But we can hope for the best this winter.

          • Heck OB, the older I get, the less I like snow; my lovely and long suffering wife claims to LUV it…with the caveat that it’s been previously removed, via adoring husband, from any-n-all sidewalks/driveways, that is.

            Anywho, it was snowing a coupla hundred feet above us as as we traversed Fremont Pass on 09/20/2021 on our way back from Gunnison, CO.

            A speeding EcoBox heading east on I-70 from Copper Mountain was caked-snow covered.

            83° & dry here; perfect weather for pulling spent vines from an astounding bumper tomato crop.

  3. Here’s Tom’s comment (cited in this post), which he improvidently attached to yet another rogue comment by long-banned Chris, so it was lost when Chris’s trespass went to spam Hell:

    Jack, you need to ask yourself what happened to all the hundreds of normal people who used to comment here and left because of the blog’s decline.

    Remember Charles?

    Why do you think a classy, erudite person like Charles decided to stop commenting here? And no, it’s not because of “TDS.”

    I know you like to tell yourself that, but all you need to do is look at who is left here now. You’re left with the racist, conspiracy theory, antivax crowd, who view the left as pure evil.

    That’s what your blog is now.

    • What a moronic statement. There were never “hundreds” of people posting here at any given time. I’m not sure there have ever even been a hundred regular commenters at any time. Charles said himself why he was leaving, it was because he believed Jack had drunk the “kool-aid” Jack did not drink any kool-aid, nor has he ever been “doped up on foo-foo dust” or any of those other expressions. You need to reread.

    • Tom wrote, “you need to ask yourself what happened to all the hundreds of normal people who used to comment here and left because of the blog’s decline.”

      Tom really needs to tell us how he defines a “normal person”, it’s such a subjective phrase that it could mean anything in his mind.

      Tom wrote, “look at who is left here now. You’re left with the racist, conspiracy theory, antivax crowd, who view the left as pure evil.”

      I personally take offense to those moronic blanket categorizations that include me. Tom’s statement is pure bigotry which is defined as “obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief, opinion, or faction; in particular, prejudice against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group”. Tom owes the entire commentary on Ethics Alarms a personal apology.

      I’m not a racist, I’m not a conspiracy theorist, I’m not an anti-vaxxer, and I don’t think all of the political left is evil however there is a subset of the political left who’s totalitarian ideological leanings are in-line with Fascists and/or Marxist and in my eyes those ideological leanings are “evil”.

      Overall; I rate Tom’s entire comment as nothing but ad hominem trolling.

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