Oh Yeah, This Should Be Worth A BLM Riot…

Eight police officers in Akron, Ohio, fired nearly 100 bullets into Jayland Walker, a 25-year-old black man after they attempted to pull the car he was driving over shortly after midnight. Walker hit the accelerator resulting in a high-speed chase. Then Walker attempted  to flee on foot and, according to police, fired a gun.   weapon.

According to the Akron Police Department Facebook page, “actions by the suspect caused the officers to perceive he posed a deadly threat to them. In response to this threat, officers discharged their firearms, striking the suspect.”

He died shortly thereafter.

No gun was found on Walker after he was killed, however, but a gun and multiple shell casings were recovered from his vehicle by police. (They say.) So far, it is a puzzle why Walker fled, as he had no police record and wasn’t being sought for any crimes. Meanwhile, the Walker family’s attorney, Bobby DiCello (I guess Ben Crump didn’t get to Akron on time) said,

“I’m going to say this to any police officer that wants to avoid accountability: It will not stand. We will get to the bottom of what occurred. We absolutely will. You can’t take the 5th. You can’t hide. You can’t band together arm in arm and pretend that what just happened didn’t happen or was all Jayland’s fault.”

Akron is just assuming there will be riots; after all, Black Lives Matter has been exposed as a scam and needs a distraction. The city has  has canceled its Rib, White, & Blue Festival and closed down the courthouse yesterday. A walk and rally held by the Akron NAACP is scheduled for Sunday at 3 p.m. Akron police will show the bodycam video during a 1 p.m. press conference on July 3 and release it publicly afterward.


1. There should have been no demands for justice or angry words from any lawyers, nor protests or marches scheduled by BLM, the NAACP or anyone else until the facts were settled and the the bodycam footage had been seen. But the whole idea is that any police killing of any black suspect under any circumstances is automatically a cause for recriminations against the police, white citizens and the United States generally, and the facts don’t matter. That’s where the metaphorical needle is stuck.

2. It appears that, once a again, sequence of events leading to the death of a young black suspect was set in motion by the suspect resisting arrest. Why is the learning curve so flat for this?

3. I assume—but at this point, everything is an assumption—that the reason the city is waiting so long to release the footage is that it looks like Sonny Corleone assassination in “The Godfather.” This was one tough kid: reports say he died after the shooting stopped. Taking the emotion and the “Ick Factor” out of it, though, what difference does it make how many times Walker was shot, or how many cops shot him? He’s just as dead as he would have been if a single shot had hit him right between the eyes. The media emphasis on the number of shots is sensationalism and appears to be a deliberate effort to inflame passions. The most relevant question is “Did he really have a gun and appear to threaten police with it?” The number of shots is like the detail that Mike Brown’s body was left lying in the street in Ferguson for as long as it was. It’s not germane to whether the shooting was justified or not, but it will be used to ramp up anger and hate.

4. I’ve seen too many movies, I guess (and had to deal with too many fact-shading cops when I was prosecuting criminal cases), but the fact that no weapon was found on Walker but a gun and casings were claimed to be found in his car sounds awfully suspicious to me.

5. Most of the media accounts make a big point of the fact that Walker’s death has been ruled a “homicide” without explaining that the word in that context doesn’t mean “murder.” It means that the cause of death was the actions of other human beings. It means Walker died from being shot, and that’s all. Again, that omitted detail might be accidental, and and might be deliberate, but either way the sloppy reporting will help get the rioting started.

Happy Fourth of July Weekend, Akron!


Sources: The Blaze, WKYCUSA Today, Fox 8

9 thoughts on “Oh Yeah, This Should Be Worth A BLM Riot…

  1. #4) Not a police officer, but I’ve watched a lot of Live PD on TV 🙂
    A very realistic answer – Walker fired his gun in the car, and after ditching the car, fired more rounds until he ran out. Since it was now useless to him, he threw the gun in a ditch/behind a tree and kept running. He could have been thinking that it would be worse to get caught and arrested with the gun so he wanted to get rid of it. If the officers didn’t know he ditched the gun, the manner in which he acted may have led them to believe he was trying to shoot at them.
    However,even if a gun is later found, even if it matches the casings and has his fingerprints on it, I suspect the BLM crowd will claim it was planted and is fake evidence.

  2. Not a policeman myself, but a gun trained civilian from a very gun heavy family (we are also generally speaking pro-cop and my step-dad once was a small town cop before he moved up to the higher paid position of ambulance driver) and when we heard about this, my mom said, “What the hell are these cops? Stormtroopers?”

    According to one report I read, it was 90 rounds and 60 hits. That is the equivalent of 1 miss every three shots. By the accounting we make for shooting our moving food, that’s a really bad rate.

    In addition, most handguns have a 10 shot max clip, so 8 cops is 88 shots max. So where did 90 bullets come from? Are the numbers inflated? Did the cops use rifles? Did they reload or grab an extra pistol in the chaos? What the hell happened?

    Finally, why did 8 cops all fire on the guy? What happened to cause EIGHT cops to do so?

    I have no answers. I agree that what we know seems awfully damning on the cops, but the media is known to exaggerate or falsify data to get a response. Maybe we have 8 pure-as-the-driven-snow stormtroopers who need an excessive time spent at the range for shooting at a scary drug fueled maniac but cannot hit the broadside of a barn. Maybe we have a cabal of corrupt and racist police officers. Probably, the answer is somewhere in the middle of this fiasco. But in today’s society, will we ever know?

    Happy 4th Akron. Good luck!

    • Why is one officer shooting him dead more damning than 8? The issue isn’t marksmanship. If he was resisting arrest and waiving a gun, or appearing to be threatening to shoot, then he deserved to be shot? I still don’t see the objection. He has no right to a Wild West-style show down with a single officer.

      • The marksmanship is indeed important. If the police are to protect us with weapons, they are to show some minor skill with those weapons. If you cannot hit a moving target, you shouldn’t be firing at one. This is as true in the woods and lakes as it is in a city. Bullets that do not hit their mark hit something. In a populated area, that something can be another human being. This is why most towns of my familiarity forbid even BB guns shooting at woodpeckers. No matter how damaging that woodpecker is to your house, shooting it is likely to hurt someone if you miss. The police should be aware and not fire excessively, for the risk of hurting the innocent.

        Eight police officers firing willy-nilly demonstrates a likely lack of arms training that suggests problems. One over-enthusiastic cowboy is one thing; eight is another.

        The bullet count does not, in and of itself, mean that a cop would be wrong to fire. Reloading a weapon suggests potential problems with the situation that will not reflect well on cops “reacting to shots fired”, a major discrepancy in shots fired and shots hit shows another issue entirely. The man could be guilty as sin and still there is a problem with the officers shooting as though they were at the OK Corral. If the only issue is that this entire police department needs weapons training, so be it, but firing like this seems to be a problem.

        Also, eight officers firing suggest overwhelming force. Eight on one is a pretty major set of odds, odds that don’t match the current “innocent boy in the wrong place” narrative that I’ve been reading on this issue. If there was no gun, what caused eight men to fire. If there was a gun, this makes more sense. We need more information.

        Nothing about this case seems good. You may have a guilty-as-sin “victim” and pure-as-driven-snow officers following policy exactly, but the careless disregard for their weapons makes me concerned. Proper weapons respect involves knowing your bullets hit their target. I do NOT advocate for protests on this issue, at least not without a significant amount more data and after summer 2020 and the year 2021, I might advocate that protests in this arena are always inappropriate. I will generally give the cops the benefit of the doubt that they fired with good reason, until shown otherwise. However, I cannot overlook the stormtrooper-like marksmanship of these cops. It is moral luck that no one ELSE died with 30 unaccounted for bullets.

    • “According to one report I read, it was 90 rounds and 60 hits.”
      Sadly, that’s actually better than average performance for an actual gunfight involving police, versus shooting at static targets on the range. Shooting at a piece of paper that doesn’t have any potential to harm you, under ideal conditions, is a lot different than a street shootout, with the adrenaline pumping and all sorts of environmental distractions.
      “In addition, most handguns have a 10-shot max clip…”
      False premise. The most commonly used police handguns (Glocks, SIGs, S&Ws) utilize magazines holding about 15-rounds. 8 officers x 15 rounds = 120.shots potentially fired. Some of the officers on the scene may not have fired at all.
      As Jack said, the number of shots is irrelevant, beyond the ick factor. Police shoot to stop, not to kill. One unjustified bullet is as bad as 100, and vice versa. In the heat of a pursuit and attempted apprehension, it isn’t exactly practical to take a vote on who is going to shoot should deadly force become necessary, and it isn’t like calling a fly ball in center field. The controlling factor often comes down to who has a clear shot at the suspect without endangering others (police or bystanders), and this can change rapidly as a situation evolves.
      The lack of a gun found on the suspect is troubling, but not definitive. Long ago, I investigated an OIS for a neighboring jurisdiction. No gun was found on the suspect, and we had to expand the crime scene search three times before finding the suspect’s handgun more than 50 feet from the body, under a nearby porch. An ATF trace on the pistol showed it had been purchased by the suspect’s wife about a month before he used it in the robbery that resulted in his being pursued by police and shot. He apparently tossed it as he ran past the house after firing it at police and then being shot by them.
      I will wait on more facts in this case before drawing any extreme conclusions.
      Pray for Akron!

      • Ok, those are useful details, and they do quite a bit to shade my opinion. I was unaware that police do not have to follow the 10 shot magazine limit. I suppose I also didn’t realize police shoot to wound not kill. I have always been taught that in self defense, covered in hunters safety, to shoot toward center mass and empty the clip so you will stop them, probably fatally and won’t miss. Truly, I do give the police the benefit of the doubt in shooting fatally, as I assume self-defense until/unless the data is pretty egregious. Between the increased size of the clip and the intent not to kill, that changes a lot.

        I wasn’t considering range shooting though, not really. I was considering nuisance and predator hunts, prairie dogs and coyotes, really. 66% is a really low hit rate even one those small animals. I suppose that shooting a person and one trying to shoot at you would affect it a bit, but that still seems awfully low, especially in a populated area.

        I still think 30 missed shots in a big city like Akron (Google says it is way bigger than Ft Collins and Ft Collins feels overcrowded to me) involves moral luck not to hit anyone innocent. If that is better than average for cops, that is still scary. 1037 fatal police shootings last year makes for not quite an average of 3 lethal shootings a day with probably many more non-lethal occurring, given your statement. A bullet can travel more than a mile and hunters always are to consider the potential of someone being nearby so you don’t hurt another. Dick Cheney being a ridiculous example of a bad shot and poacher who is too cavalier with others lives. How do missed rounds not cause way more damage in these huge cities? I’d appreciate more information.

        I do agree that I want more data before making any decisions aside from accusing the cops of bad aim (which is all a stormtrooper accusation means, in case that wasn’t clear). I also hope that Akron sees only peaceful protests. I doubt it, but I will hope and pray for that.

        • Addendum, police typically use light weight (110 grain), hollow point ammunition. The bullets do not penetrate as far a 158 grain and will mushroom to a stop when it hits anything; part of police training is to take account of what’s behind the target, which might be impossible in the dark.
          Lastly, police neither shoot to kill or injure, they shoot to stop the threat; the survival of the target is secondary until the threat ends.
          Again to marksmanship, how well would you do if you had to fire on a prairie dog while running for cover in the dark because the prairie dog has a gun and is shooting at you from an unknown location?
          If your local police allow it, ask to go on a ride-along. The leftist media have made people believe that cops are both racist and perfect. They are neither.

        • I may not have been clear enough about the “shooting to stop” business. Shooting to stop almost always involves center mass hits (unless your target is wearing body armor, when it is “hips-and-head” shots that will win the day). What I meant was, police shoot to stop the subject from presenting a deadly threat. Whether the suspect lives or dies is secondary. If that takes one round and the suspect relents and lives, then great. If it takes a full magazine dump and a reload, and the suspect dies, that’s unfortunate but, for the suspect, the consequences he (or she) chose. And I’m not defending the cops’ inaccuracy at all. I was a law enforcement officer for more than forty years, and a firearms instructor and part-time police academy instructor for more than twenty of those years. It pains me when I see hit counts so low. Yes, it is scary to me, too.
          As an avid long-range shooter and a bit of a varmint hunter myself (groundhogs and coyotes mostly), I am committed to minute of angle accuracy as my gold standard, and that’s not consistently easy out past 500 yards unless you have a real gift for reading the wind (or shoot only on windless days).
          Concerning shooting in populated areas, it is likely moral luck that more uninvolved people are not struck, although the cops aren’t just spraying bullets like a gangbanger with a MAC-10. Even the misses are almost always “close enough” that they don’t endanger anyone else. I was always taught, and taught others, to scan the background when making the decision to shoot or not shoot. This is pretty much a universal training standard since at least the mid-1970s when I started in policing. I know personally of numerous instances where I and others held our fire due to folks in the background. Obviously, the suspect, rather than the cops, usually picks the site of the gunfight.

    • Based solely on what I have read on this page, 10 round magazines are for civilians; law enforcement semi-auto pistols have 15 round mags. As far as marksmanship, the police were firing at a moving target after midnight; one that the police believed was armed and threatening their lives, ducking, covering, trying to hear where each of them were, semi-blinded by their own muzzle flashes, and who knows what else. It’s also a general rule that once someone starts shooting, everybody else starts shooting until the threat ends.
      None of that will matter, unfortunately.

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