The New York Times went all out with a feature about how food delivery drivers were being exploited and under-rewarded. The headline: “$388 in Sushi. Just a $20 Tip: The Brutal Math of Uber Eats and DoorDash.”
The assumption of reporter Mark Abramson is that the more the food costs, the more the tip should be, presumably because anyone who can afford $388 for sushi should share the wealth. But a delivery driver does exactly the same amount of work for the sushi order as a he would for 20 bucks worth of egg rolls. Why is he entitled to the same level of tip as a waiter or waitress who ideally contributes to a pleasurable dining experience?
Well, he isn’t. And though the Times readers are as woke as they come, this bit of working class hero victimization propaganda was too tough to swallow. Some examples…
- “Not sure why delivering a bag with $20 of food should be tipped any differently than a larger bag containing $350 dollars worth of food. Unless the bag of food is extraordinarily heavy or takes up so much space the driver has to turn down other jobs to make room, the task is identical. Maybe if they were tipping those who prepared the food, the size of the tip should reflect the work being done. But that’s not the case here. I’m typically very sympathetic to anyone in the service industry and am a generous tipper due to my early years working in that sector, but you’ve lost me on this one.”
“Delivery guy isn’t being paid as a percentage of $388 of raw fish and steamed rice. He being paid to promptly go from A to B.
Promptly. 20 buck for 20 minutes is $125,000 a year. This is the worlds smallest violin…”
“So the driver gets paid more just to bring a more expensive order? It’s not like you are eating at the restaurant, taking up his or her time. You take up the same time. Sorry but even though I tip well at restaurants, I don’t necessarily tip stupidly for deliveries.”
“Do FedEx, USPS, or UPS drivers get tips? Do long-haul truckers get tips?”
- “The comments here reveal how out-of-touch the NYT has become with even the common ‘liberal’ American. The article tries to portray people who ‘only’ tip $20 for a simple delivery as being less than generous. The comments find that notion absurd and point out (rightly, imho) that tipping in the US has gone off the rails. Where is this divide coming from?”
- “The starting point is that Uber and Doordash don’t pay fairly for their workers/employers/subcontractors. The whole concept of getting paid by tips instead of getting a fair share of the deal itself is bogus. This is exploitation that is performed by Uber and Doordash and nothing else. Why should a tip exceed $20 for delivering a bag of food? If the food is expensive or inexpensive the service quality is what the tip is for.”
- “$388 order requires only slightly more work than a $38 order, for which a $20 tip would be outrageous. Just sayin.”
There were 3800+ comments, and almost all of them are like those.
There is hope.
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I’ve noticed similar comment trends pushing back against the transgender craze, with plenty of people even on the left saying it goes too far. It gives me hope that the days of wokeness are numbered.
Just a reminder that tip stands for “to insure promptness” which is exactly what an Uber or Doordash driver has to sell since they’re not selling or serving the food. Geez, how uneducated are these reporters? Abramson should be embarrassed but the woke seem to have that portion of their brain/conscience scooped out. God help us.
That’s certainly irrelevant with the delivery services, since the tip is settled upon and automatic before the food is even prepared. Moreover, deliveries to our house, at least, are delayed and later than promised, oh, I’d say 30% of the time. And if it is, there is nobody to call: the restaurant typically says its out of the loop, of does a “Sgt. Schultz”: “I know NOTHING! NOTHING!”
Anyone who would order sushi with DoorDash has a death wish…
Things must be different out here. Here’s one perspective from a delivery driver that influenced me: “Speaking as a former driver, a flat tip is fine. Really depends on how many deliveries they can do per hour, but $5 is the min for any type of delivery and $10+ is great.” Clearly, he doesn’t see himself in the same role as a server in a restaurant.
This is exactly why most news outlets no longer maintain comment sections.
THAT’S an interesting observation! Unlike EA, the comments on most big-time media outlets devolve into grade school name calling in about three comments. I guess I thought it was the terrible quality of comments that shut them down. Maybe it was because they were not sufficiently leftist!
In my opinion, tipping has gotten way out of hand. 10% used to be a good amount and of you wanted to thank great service 15% was good. Then 15% was the standard amount and anything up to 20% was for excellent service. 18% was usually considered a great amount for extra work and 20% was for the phenomenal or a sign of generosity. Now I am told that 18-20% is the baseline. Not only do I have to keep tipping larger percentages, but there is a social factor. If a waiter comes out, treats my requests with disdain, brings my food 45 minutes later than the rest of the table, gets half of my order wrong, and forgets my dessert while still charging me for it, I am the despicable human being and skinflint for refusing to tip on the bill. The manager and other diners treat this as my fault. (No, I haven’t gone back and my husband caused the place to lose some of his business with workplace dinners.)
We also have the issue of more and more people thinking they deserve tips. Waiters used to get tips. Now, a sandwich shop requests that I tip the employees for making a sandwich. I need to tip the person at the hotel who cleans my room, a service that I thought was paid for in my room bill. I paid extra for delivery and now I need to pay the guy, who I already paid to deliver it, more? Some people are saying we need to tip grocery baggers and other jobs that provide services that NEVER needed tips before. This is getting out of hand.
Bagging groceries and making sandwiches are unskilled labor. The employers pay what they think the labor is worth ($15 an hour is not uncommon) and I see no reason to tip. Good waiters should get tips, but we shouldn’t be expected to tip all waiters. Service from all levels seems to be falling and I think the REQUIREMENT to tip is a factor. If I will get paid the same regardless of how well I do, why should I do a decent job? This is the same reason that $75,000 a year for everyone, with no one making more or less fails. If I can get $75,000 bagging groceries for 40 hours a week, why on earth would I be an engineer with a comparatively huge amount of knowledge needed, thousands of lives depending on me to make good decisions, and work huge amounts of unpaid overtime to make the products millions need to get to their standard 8-5?
This whole tipping thing has already gone too far Marxist to me.
Every time I hit the “no tip” button at ice cream shops and fast/casual food places, I get a tiny rush of guilt, and I feel the cashier’s eyes on me.
Sometimes I end up adding a few dollars, even though it’s dumb. The power of assertiveness is unfortunately, strong, which turns into aggressiveness in many people who are often rewarded for that aggressiveness.
I think the excessive tipping nudges are a result of inflation bankrupting people.
The decline in customer service seems to have more to do with a general nihilism that has emerged since the pandemic lockdowns. That and the pressure of increased productivity demands from employers who eliminate position after position and dump the work on a dwindling pool of employees. Are there really no applicants for jobs, or are companies just pretending there are no applicants to explain why suddenly they only hire a quarter of the employees that they used to? Who knows. I do know that the more jobs you give someone the less effectively they can complete any of them and the more fed up they get.
Take retail for example. A lot of places cut out cashiers and expect the floor employees to run back and forth from their department to the cash registers trying to cover both. Then they get rid of the people who collect carts in the parking lot and tell the floor employees to do that as well. Hard to help customers find stuff from the parking lot. Then the stores cut the stock people and tell the floor employees to do all that as well. Now you have someone running from the front to the back to the parking lot like a chicken with their head cut off, no one is on the floor, the customers are mad and the store is a mess. No matter how hard working the employee is they cannot be in more than one place at a time. It should not be surprising that this sort of thing leads to disgruntled employees.
Threatening to replace everyone with robots probably doesn’t help. It just makes people feel like they are disposable.
Society is a mess.
Increasing percentages doesn’t make sense though. The increased cost of living caused by inflation would be offset by the increased tip wages from getting 15% of a much larger restaurant bill.
The push to 18% that occurred a few years ago, and now the current push to 20 or even 25% is probably a concentrated effort to eventually rid us of tipping although and go to a purely wage-based model.
Of course, that benefits only the low performing servers…