I can’t imagine what ethics matters you’ll talk about today, as there is so much to choose from. Me, I’d be sorely tempted to draw an analogy between the now completely partisan Justice Department indicting the primary threat to Democratic power for conduct identical to what their own President has engaged in, essentially throwing jet fuel on what is already a highly combustible political division, and irresponsible flea-circus entrepreneurs reintroducing dinosaurs into the food chain.
But you know me: everything reminds me of baseball, old movies, or dinosaurs…
Ethics Alarms 
The inimitaable Babylon Bee: Trump Indicted For Keeping Classified Documents At Mar-A-Lago Instead Of Somewhere Secure Like The Trunk Of A Corvette
Bravo Indigo November Golf Oscar!
Pirate bathroom servers and sock drawers also seem to be secure locations.
Why don’t they just rent billboards to display the announcement of the new dictatorship? It would be a much cheaper and clearer method of announcing their intentions.
Been waiting for a new installment of worst Presidents. I’ve never been more confused by the DOJ’s policy of not indicting a sitting President but going weapons-free on someone running in opposition to the sitting President.
Is the California AG going to indict DeSantis for kidnapping next? (Oh, nevermind; no need for hyperbole.)
Yup, I am abashed that I haven’t finished it, and I’m hoping to do it this weekend. Woodrow Wilson stopped me cold. I was watching a documentary on the origins of WWII last night and again realized how much blood was on Wilson’s hands—he allowed the Treaty of Versailles to be excessively punitive, knowing how dangerous that was, because he was so focused on his pet League of Nations idea. So we have a single President sharing responsibility for Jim Crow, the rise of the Klan, WW I’s devastation to Americans, the spread of the Spanish Flu, the rise of Hitler (and thus the Holocaust and WW II) AND who allowed his wife to run the country secretly while he was disabled.
How does even Biden top that?
In all fairness, Biden isn’t done yet, so the jury is still out on that question.
I guess we will have to wait 20 years and see if any Biden administration actions cause WWIII or other atrocities.
He also arguably oversaw the beginning of the massive growth (and overreach) of the federal government and presidential power. Depending on if you think it’s a good thing or not May move him up or down the scale.
What the heck is happening to business ethics, integrity and having a reasonable amount of respect for those you do business with? I’ve been doing this kind of work for a long time and I’m noticing big changes across the board in how companies do business. Companies have become openly disrespectful to the point of being abusive to customers and suppliers, good customer service is becoming quaint, lack of communication is becoming the norm, it’s as if business ethics and integrity have been completely trashed. As a product supplier, we’ve noticed a lots of younger customers that make completely unreasonable demands, expect instant gratification and blame what are clearly their ordering errors on us; no the customer is not always right. As a manufacturer, we have multiple product suppliers that give us quotes, yes actual quotes with prices and delivery times, and then after we make our purchase within the terms of the quote they turn around and change the prices and delivery dates without any notification. Then after we get those kind of messes fixed, too often the “new” delivery date comes and goes and we still don’t have the product(s) we ordered. It’s as if these people don’t know the difference between a quote and an estimate, or they just don’t give a damn that there is a difference and God Forbit that you point out the issues to them, the simply say something like “so what, do you want the product or not?”. As the younger generation starts to take over running businesses, ethics, integrity and effective communication are rapidly fading away.
Since the newer generations don’t seem to really understand the concept of ethics, integrity and respect, I think we’re in for some rough times across the board with our supply chain as these new generations take over.
If you’re a young person and you don’t fall into this group then good for you!
Speaking of movies I watched one last night that had a myriad of ethical issues contained therein. I would like to hear your assessment. The movie was “The Strange One” ( 1957) starring Ben Gazzarra and featuring George Pippard, in his cinema debut.
Who is George Pippard?
Time to unplug the country, wait 10 seconds, plug it back in and see if the reboot helps. (This is plagiarized from someone who plagiarized it. Must be artificial intelligence because it certainly isn’t real intelligence.)
… for conduct identical to what their own President has engaged in
What conduct exactly?
Look it up. If you can’t answer that yourself, you’re flirting with the Stupidity Rule (See Comment policies.)
I did look it up, didn’t find what you were talking about at all!
What did you mean?
Joe Biden’s classified documents scandal?
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/01/12/president-biden-had-classified-documents-in-delaware-garage.html
I’d paste more but that’d probably send the post into moderation.
I knew about that but the two main charges against Trump are false statements and conspiracy to obstruct.
When did Biden do that?
Well, you’ve set a record, I think: quickest banning in EA history. Congratulations. This is a trolling response. The underlying charge is unauthorized and illegal possession of classified material. As a VP, Biden’s possession of such materials is worse than Trumps. The false statements and conspiracy to obstruct are the typical add-ons flowing from the alleged illegal conduct.
Biden, of course, has made too many false statements to count, including obfuscating about the classified documents in his garage.
Either you are trolling, or you’re an idiot. In either case, you are not fit for productive debate here. Any further comments you submit will either end up in spam automatically, or, if they slip through, will be sent there the moment I see them.
When I approve someone as a commenter, it means I trust them to comment in good faith going forward. Shame on you.
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Elaborate further, please.
Like this message reaches two types of people:
1) Someone so disconnected they aren’t aware of the massive forest fires in Canada right now. (0.00000001% of the population)
2) Someone so unwilling to question their priors that they don’t care about the truth and will *never* be reached by rational argument (an unfortunately high percentage of people).
On the subject of forest fires, might they be better off blaming those conflagrations on Global Warming?
Not exactly; to wit:
Who Is Starting All These Wildfires? WE ARE
I just tweeted (my first Tweet, ugh, I’ve gone over to the dark side)
‘Well, now your pants are on fire’.
Every retweet of this meme is a mark of stupidity. We should make note of them.
Gotta give it to Dems … they are masters are doing all that takes to advance their agenda and maintain their grip on power. Them going after Trump the way they have (if you ignore the irreparable harm it causes to the country, short and long term, which they obviously don’t care about) is a win/win/win:
1) they may take him down;
2) irrespective of them succeeding, their efforts will ensure he wins the GOP nomination, and they know him being on the ticket will ensure keeping the WH and Senate, and possibly winning the House (especially after yesterday’S SCOTUS decision—thanks Roberts); and
3) irrespective of them succeeding, they get to make an example of him, to deter future populists or politicians that get in their way
This could also blow up in their faces. Americans don’t like witch hunts, they do not like disparate treatment, and they do not like abuse of the system, which this is. The Democrats are also setting the precedent for their own candidates to get prosecuted down the line. They don’t seem to have learned a thing from Harry Reid’s foolish nuking of the filibuster blowing up in their faces. Had he not done that, there’s a good chance we’d be looking at a much more moderate SCOTUS and the issue of abortion would not have regained its political potency.
Respectfully disagree. I think Dems believe that they will never lose another election, at least to the extent of GOP winning a trifecta. With share of GenZ and Millennials among voters increasing, and the measures to shore up democracy (mass mail-in voting, ever increasing early voting, looser voter verification, ballot harvesting en mass) spreading more and more (like cancer) they ain’t wrong.
And nuking the filibuster did not blow in their face really. Obama’s and Biden’s (but I repeat myself) appointees make up more than 50% of the federal judicial bench. Arguably the worst thing that happened is the current conservative majority SCOTUS, but the only relevant thing to result is reversing Roe, which also helped them. Oh and the two justices most likely to exit next are Alito and Thomas, so if they win the WH and Senate in ‘24, that conservative majority will disappear and never come back.
Agreed re GOP being skunked going forward in national elections. Ballot harvesting is the Dems’ ticket to unobstructed control going forward. The Republicans have no (illegal) ground game, i.e., vote harvesting.
Here is Eric Boehm.
https://reason.com/2023/06/08/trumps-new-york-indictment-is-just-the-beginning/
Also, read the comments section!
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-indictment-classified-documents-06-09-23/h_177679bc62210e85a6b52f8f22ac3c26
Copy of the indictment.
A comment on a Reason.com article.
https://reason.com/2023/06/09/trump-indicted-faces-federal-criminal-charges-under-espionage-act/?comments=true#comment-10101090
Obama’s CIA director (who was never president with declassification authority) stole classified documents and gave them to his mistress in exchange for sex for years
He was allowed to plead to a misdemeanor and got probation
His name is David Petraeus
I love reading Reason.com for the comments!
Thanks. I was going to track that down.
A healthcare provider willing to give false diagnoses to people who want to change sex: https://legalinsurrection.com/2023/06/trans-healthcare-providers-caught-lying-about-diagnoses-rubber-stamping-approvals-for-sex-change-procedures/
This reminds me of an online YouTube ad from a company offering to “certify” your dog as an “emotional support animal”, claiming it legally entitles them to the same public privileges as service dogs (it doesn’t).
I wonder if there are providers lurking in other areas of the healthcare industry who are willing to serve as “diagnosis mills”.
What did they say was wrong regarding the phone call to Zelensky, again?
I thought abut that too. All part of the context.
If you read the indictment, it’s quite damning. I’m not saying the Justice Department is unbiased, or that Biden is a saint, but if you take handling of classified documents seriously then the sort of behavior Trump exhibited should not be tolerated. He was truly reckless with classified documents, showed them to people, and refused to hand them over to the National Archives. Many people have gone to jail for lesser offenses, and the fact that he is the former president does not make him immune to the law. “What about Biden” is not a defense here.
I didn’t say it was a defense. It isn’t a defense. Can’t anyone read?
I wrote, “I’d be sorely tempted to draw an analogy between the now completely partisan Justice Department indicting the primary threat to Democratic power for conduct identical to what their own President has engaged in, essentially throwing jet fuel on what is already a highly combustible political division, and irresponsible flea-circus entrepreneurs reintroducing dinosaurs into the food chain.” I just wrote another post clarifying what I shouldn’t have to clarify. Biden, Democrats and the Justice Department have no credibility regarding Trump, and deserve none. Biden engaging, as VP, in similar misuse of classified documents poisoned any chance that prosecuting Trump wouldn’t be looked at as third World criminalizing of politics. That’s why its reckless, dangerous and stupid.
Not only is an upcoming Irish famine going to drive a wave of immigration – but there’s a war in Ukraine that our general’s are observing just like McClellan did 10 years prior to the Civil War. And we also have Democrats pushing the governing systems to the brink of breaking – just like they did.
All the historical echoes are happening!
So now challenging a federal investigation is now obstruction?