At Least They’re Keeping An Open Mind…

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Ann Althouse, who flagged this, wrote, “Oh, New Yorker!”

She’s right: what a relentlessly negative and divisive way to welcome a new President. The New Yorker is supposed to be the flagship publication for sophisticates and intellectuals. The better term for the audience appears to be “bitter snots.”  The flagship is playing to the mob, Althouse suggests. Is that all the media has become? Clickbait purveyors and the reinforcement of pre-existing biases, fears and prejudices?

I’ve been around a long time. I have never seen those on the losing side of any election behave so nastily, defiantly and unfairly. It reflects poorly on the nation, its politics, and its journalism, but it really reflects badly on Democrats and liberals. I’m embarrassed for them.

Ann tags this “Trump derangement syndrome.” That is too kind.

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35 responses to “At Least They’re Keeping An Open Mind…

  1. Do you feel there is no justification for the frustration directed at Trump’s election? Or might we need to slice the term “frustration” a bit finer?

    • The election was two weeks ago. Being continually frustrated at something that is over with and that one cannot change is neither rational or productive. What, exactly, is the point? To make everyone else as miserable out of spite?

      • True, and I would definitely agree that the violence is uncalled for. That certainly doesn’t solve anything and, if anything, makes things worse. That’s sad we are faced with a candidate the likes of which we’ve never seen before. His hateful and vitriolic speech, his sexist behavior, his bigotry, his xenophobia, have resulted in half of the country feeling…un easy to say the least. If the next four years are simply more of the same violent protesting and foot dragging then I agree — it will be irrational and unproductive. What I hope is that his election will galvanize individuals to become more active in politics, more active in promoting social unity and more active in creating, what Dr. Martin Luther King (I think), called the beautiful community.

        • That’s the best case scenario. A little education about how democracy and a republic work might help. And some humility.

        • Nomeatbarefeet writes: “That’s sad we are faced with a candidate the likes of which we’ve never seen before. His hateful and vitriolic speech, his sexist behavior, his bigotry, his xenophobia, have resulted in half of the country feeling…un easy to say the least. If the next four years are simply more of the same violent protesting and foot dragging then I agree — it will be irrational and unproductive. What I hope is that his election will galvanize individuals to become more active in politics, more active in promoting social unity and more active in creating, what Dr. Martin Luther King (I think), called the beautiful community.”

          I would suggest that you have it backwards. It is a sector of the population, and in the case of Trump a sector of the white population, which has reacted to the ‘present dispensation’ — it is easy to call it something like ‘hyper-liberalism’ or ‘extreme progressivism’ but in truth it requires a lengthy essay if not a book to describe what *it* is — and out of this reaction a populist politician has thrust himself forward. (And populists are dangerous and devious and rarely to be trusted!)

          The reason he gained traction is because he is reflecting or ‘speaking for’ sentiments and ideas or perceptions of this sector of America, that is to say white America. It seem to me that if you get that straight, and if you really understand that, you will have a better base from which to understand *what is going on and why*. Certainly though, deliberate misreading or misinterpretation of this and any other event will never lead to a truthful platform of understanding.

          I would make some different statements, and my statements (I hope) would clarify your statements, not negate them but clarify them.. I think you might be right about sexism. But then *sexism* is a highly politicized term isn’t it? Like racism. It is a term used in a blanket manner and is often a *deadly attack* against which no one can defend themselves. So, and again speaking about a general climate in the population, or a certain sector, I think you will find that people are reacting against an emboldened feminism, or the feminist side of the general Progressive assault. There are many communities, be them church communities or rural communities, or less urban communities which have women and men who are interested in defending sex differences. And who react against the hyper-progressive-feminism (if you will permit the term) and wish to counter it, to dampen it. Now, it is very true and very clear that our Leading Periodical, our Ideological Guide the NYTs refers to this reaction as back-ass-wardness and retrogradeness. And we know that the Liberal Establishment too tends to see things in this way and to condemn the counter-definitions I suggest. But what I am trying to say is that there is a large sector of the population which has traditionally resisted the social engineering of the Elites (I try to use this term not in the now common dramatic sense but in the real sense: the academic, opinion-setting elite).

          As to ‘bigotry’ we are to read ‘racism’ are we not? The population of the US, through a shift in immigration, has consciously modified its demographics and has consciously and intentionally begun to reduce its former dominant white population to a minority status while it has simultaneously established ideological and doctrinal platforms, through PR and Propaganda, through state intervention in education, to establish this eventuality as ‘good’ ‘necessary’ and also ‘inevitable’. In the schools, in the universities, in the mdeia, in Hollywood, whites are subtly or overtly villified. If you want to understand this you will have to look into it. And you will find that there is not a developing REACTION. There is a large and a wide *underground* as it were that is beginning to organize itself, get clear about itself, define and redefine itself, and it is among the white sector of the population. To do so they must challenge and throw off a whole group of designations and harmful definitions that have been pegged on them. This is what is happening now, and this is what will go on happening. Let me put it in the first-person:

          “As we get more clear about who we are and what we are, we begin to see again that it is we who have built this country and it is our will that brought it into existence. It is our ideas and our power that stand behind it, conceptually and materially, and we will not, not ever, allow anyone to wrest that away from us through any sort of social engineering project, through any government project, through any importation of meso-American populations (one example) to create a voting block to isolate and to disempower us.”

          I suggest to you that it is this sentiment, conscious or unconscious, that is operating subtly or overtly and is part of the undergirding of *what is happening*. It remains to be seen how it develops though.

          To you (likely) and to others perhaps these definitions and assertions amount to ‘racism’. That would be logical wouldn’t it? It is part of the 60s and post-60s project in molding ideas that these eventualities have come about. And it is through the reverse of these definitions that they will all be turned back. They will be turned back. Get used to it and wake up to what is happening.

          It is the project itself, that is of *forced blending* which creates the conflicts in the first place. Perhaps that is a sad truth for you? And perhaps you are of the school that believes that through exortation and sophisticated indoctrination that essential attitudes can be re-engineered? Well, that is in essence what MLK was about. As Christian as he may have been he was also an activist with communist associations and leanings. Behind the stances of socialism and communism stand false Marxian ideology. So you see that to challenge *King* is to challenge a whole notion of right and wrong and good and bad that has been established in the post-war dispensation, the post-war mind-control operation.

          Smash Cultural Marxism is my motto. Sure, it is a little bold I admit. I say it with some humor. But what I suggest to you is that you attempt to see the degree to which you yourself have been indocrinated and the degree to which you have internalized it. It can be done.

  2. charlesgreen

    For what it’s worth, I largely agree. This is whining, psychologically unhealthy, unseemly, and bound to be seen as pathetic and disgusting.
    Let’s deal with reality and get on with real issues.

    • zoebrain

      The reality is that Trump’s clueless. So he’s doing the sensible thing, getting guidance from people who were loyal to him, and know far more about governance. Far more meaning at least something about state politics, if not federal issues.

      Unfortunately those politicians that were unwavering in their support ranged from the far right of the GOP to the ultra far right outside it. Or were outside it until now.

      I believe him when he says he has no idea why nazis are ecstatic that he’s been elected. That he doesn’t want to energise them, and had no intention of doing that. But his appointments – like the latest one for Education – do exactly that. Another with strong connections to the FRC hate group.

      • I don’t get your logic about Betsey DeVos, not at all. How does that appointment energize Nazis? Sounds like a smear to me. Recent DOE Secretaries have been captive of the public school industry, and the public schools are a disgrace, flat out, no question about it. It is why I home schooled my son, and breath a sigh of relief every day because I did. If there was ever an area calling for a new model, and especially someone not beholden to the teachers’ unions, this is it. Obama said he would make education a top priority, and it has crashed at all levels. DeVos has a different view: Good. She can’t possibly do any worse. Eliminating public education entirely couldn’t be worse.

        • Did you know that under the Trump administration, that there will be an institute that, annually, will endorse, WITH TRUMP’S APPROVAL, a uniformed set of self-styled warriors that are fanatically loyal to what some would consider an “American Nation”?

          This group, and it isn’t small mind you, will take OATHS to follow any order Trump gives?

          If that doesn’t frighten you then this will:

          That across college campuses, though it is small now, there are chapters of young men and women espousing this exact same kind of “Hyper-Patriotic” fervor, and that they too will take annual oaths to follow Trump’s orders?

          Frightening…

          You knows, Nazis really like militaristic organizations like those….

          I’m shaking.

        • charlesgreen

          Jack, are you suggesting eliminating public education entirely is something desirable? That one raised my eyebrows.

    • zoebrain

      Reality

      http://professorwatchlist.org/

      They haven’t started putting the names of Jews in brackets yet, so there’s hope that this might be a genuine attempt at freeing up discourse… But it’s also useful as a target list if things keep on going the way they are, with violent incidents steadily increasing.

      Source SPLC so not unbiased. But not contradicted by evidence.

      • For the record, if an organization calls anti-illegal immigrant rhetoric anti-immigrant rhetoric, it is by definition dishonest, and I don’t trust anything it claims.This should be a rule of reason.

        By the way, was the harassment of Mike Pence by the Hamilton cast included on the list? I’m guessing not…

      • joed68

        Yeah, SPLC. ‘Nuff said.

    • That’s the healthy response. Why is it so elusive?

  3. Deery

    I’ve been around a long time. I have never seen those on the losing side of any election behave so nastily, defiantly and unfairly.

    Have they denied Trump is an American yet? Have they published private naked pictures of his dead mother? Have they compared his entire families to monkeys? It can definitely get nastier, more defiant, and more unfair, if very recent behavior is anything to go by.

    • Whose “they”? The “everyone’s afraid’ is just a different form of “othering” and trying to delegitimize, and far, far more widespread than the birthers. As usual, a fringe is being used to represent the whole. No Republican leaders made the birther claims. Democratic Leaders like Howrad Dean and Reid, however, are leading the organized assault on Trump. Your case is really weak, and I recommend dropping it. Conservative reaction to Obama’s elction was nothing like this, not within miles, and you know it.

      • You don’t remember all the fires and rioting when Obama won?

        The calls for death and mayhem?

        • joed68

          Who could forget? Oh, and the looting.

        • Joe Fowler

          Remember the Mormon uprising when Romney lost?
          There were at least 3 incidences of double-parking reported in Provo, Utah. And, at my own home, two young men came and proselytized about Romney’s religion! Granted, they helped me rake leaves while we talked, but I was still very lightly annoyed. Mostly because they were too young to really have any depth of knowledge of Mormon history. Plus, they were almost painfully polite. It was like a nightmare of religious oppression!

      • Chris

        “No Republican leaders made the birther claims.”

        No current Republican leaders. But the most prominent birther of the time is now the de facto leader of the Republican Party, and the nation.

  4. Wayne B

    Well, everybody have a Happy Thanksgiving. Just don’t bring up opinions pro/con about Trump during the occasion. You might either get disinherited or the new baby will be named “Progressives United Against Trump” just to spite you.

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