Please Shake This Story In The Faces Of All Those Who Say That Islam Is A Religion Of Peace And Poses No Special Problems For A Democratic Nation And Culture

Muslim leaders in Philadelphia apologized Wednesday after video emerged of children speaking in Arabic about beheading Jews at an event at a Philadelphia Islamic center last month.

The Muslim American Society’s Philadelphia chapter acknowledged ownership of the “mistake” in a statement, Israel Hayom reports.

“Over the last decade our members have poured their soul and resources to create a harmonious, peaceful and engaged community,” the statement said. “We are very sad that within minutes all of this work was tarnished and we realize the mistake is ours to own. … We are deeply saddened to have hurt our partners in the Jewish community and beyond.”

The Muslim American Society initially called the incident “an unintended mistake and an oversight” after the video was published.

In the video, one girl says “we will chop off their heads” to “liberate the sorrowful and exalted Al-Aqsa Mosque” in Jerusalem.

“We will defend the land of divine guidance with our bodies, and we will sacrifice our souls without hesitation. We will lead the army of Allah fulfilling his promise, and we will subject them to eternal torture,” a girl reads.

Children also sang about the “blood of martyrs” and “Rebels, rebels, rebels.”

Officials said a volunteer aide selected the songs to represent Palestinian people, but added she “feels terrible she made a mistake” and has stepped down.

This is not a “mistake.” This is the mask slipping. No place of worship makes a “mistake” like this, and if the Philadelphia “Let’s kill Jews” song slipped out. then it is a fair assumption that similar indoctrination has occurred here and elsewhere that has not slipped out.

I will not pretend to have a coherent, Constitutional solution to the problem of Islam and Muslim immigrants, legal or otherwise. The U.S. must always oppose officially and culturally, discrimination and oppression based on membership in any group, be it Muslims, Communists, Scientologists, or Republicans. On the other hand, Justice Jackson’s over-quoted statement that the Constitution is not a suicide pact has never been more applicable.

Islam is a problem. It is as unethical to deny that as to react rashly and unjustly to it.

In a related development, what national news outlets other than Fox reported this story? I haven’t found any. After all, how can the Left maintain that Islam is benign and that its followers are no more dangerous than the Care Bears, the Cub Scouts and Golden Retriever puppies if people learn about Muslim children being taught songs about beheading Jews? Can’t have that! The story isn’t news, because it undermines the Greater Good, or perhaps because it undermines progressive mythology.

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Pointer and Source: Washington Free Beacon

47 thoughts on “Please Shake This Story In The Faces Of All Those Who Say That Islam Is A Religion Of Peace And Poses No Special Problems For A Democratic Nation And Culture

    • Well, the fact that Linda Sarsour’s Islamic mentor has his hand in this kidnapping/terrorist training doesn’t make the media MORE likely to report on it.

  1. Eighteen or so years after 9/ll we have two women IN CONGRESS wearing Muslim head scarves. I’m supposed to think this is wonderful. To me, it’s inexplicable and, to say the least, unsettling.

    • It doesn’t bother me one bit what they wear, or what they believe.

      What I worry about is what they say, and what they do.

      • They’ve said plenty, Glenn. To me, the attire is emblematic of what they believe, which is diametrically to opposed to the rule of law. And there they are in the, you know, LEGISLATURE, i.e., the supreme LAW making body in the land!

        These useful idiots (and the bad actors like CAIR) who insist Islam is a wonderful religion of peace are the same ones who say trying to democratize the Middle East, Africa and south Asia is chauvinistic. To which is say, “Okay, fine. We can leave these parts of the world back in the Eighth Century as long as they are cut off from the rest of the modern world. And certainly, let’s not have people from these areas in our country or our government. There’s already more than just the camel’s nose protruding into the tent, to use an apt phrase.

        • There is no requirement for people to believe in the rule of law. For that matter, they can worship Satan, hate America, loathe Abraham Lincoln and prefer antebellum slavery, for all I care.

          I didn’t vote for them, and wouldn’t. But that doesn’t mean they don’t have a right to be there. That’s what “freedom” means — the freedom to believe anything. As long as they obey the law, I don’t much care what they believe.

          • If there is no requirement to believe in the rule of law then why should we expect people to obey the law. More importantly, whose law must they obey.

            • Well, for the simple reason than what you believe is included in the rights to privacy and free speech. As far as the law is concerned, we expect them to obey it because it is the law not because they believe in it, or in the rule of law generally.

              I have no interest in policing the beliefs of others, however irrational and mindless.

          • Isn’t donating money to terrorist groups illegal. These Congresswomen apparently donate to the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas. Should that be tolerated?

      • I bet you would have a different about a bunch of bozos running in white robes and pointy white hats or black military uniforms emblazoned with an equal-armed cross with each arm continued at a right angle.

  2. For me this one of the key defining issue that proves to me that I’m right side morally and ethically when I oppose progressivism.

    Out of one side of their mouth, progressives blast Christianity over their views on homosexuality. Christians just want to separate themselves, to not be forced to bake a cake. Progressives tell us about the war on women in America.

    Meanwhile, Muslims kill people for being gay. In Islamic majority countries, that is the norm. Here, don’t dare go in a Muslim neighborhood being openly gay. Islam’s view of women is best described as “rather seventh century.”

    So what do progressives do? Call us anti Islamic bigots for pointing out who the biggest misogynistic and homophobic people on the planet.

  3. After all, how can the Left maintain that Islam is benign and that its followers are no more dangerous than the Care Bears, the Cub Scouts and Golden Retriever puppies if people learn about Muslim children being taught songs about beheading Jews?

    Good question.

    I notice that these people have, for at least nineteen years, been claiming that there is a white nationalist threat, that white males are the biggest terrorist threat in the U.S.., if not the West. It is as almost if they are overhyping the threat from white nationalists, white supremacists, and neo-Nazis to divert attention from militant Islamism.

  4. As Jack correctly points out, this is a difficult issue culturally and legally in the US.

    The Muslims I know have no connection to this callous attitude toward others, Jews or Christians.

    Yet, there is this nagging general socio-religious clash which rears its ugly head, too often, for my liking. As it did in this video. It is obvious promising violence to infidels, Jews in this case, is of no concern to these children, which should alarm everyone in our society.

    Perplexing and disturbing with no recommendations for a response.

    • “The Muslims I know have no connection to this callous attitude toward others, Jews or Christians.”

      Don’t be so sure that this is true – according to a prominent Islamic legal jurist, Imam Abu Hamid Ghazali:

      “This is an explicit statement that lying is sometimes permissible for a given interest…When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible (N: i.e., when the purpose of lying is to circumvent someone who is preventing one from doing something permissible) and obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory.”

      There is an Islamic word for this concept that I can’t pull out of my brain at the moment.

      • Phil:
        I know what you say is religiously correct. How much of it is observed by Muslims in this country is a different matter.

        What I’ve seen, nearly on a daily basis, from the Muslims I know are families who love this country and the liberty it offers them to worship as their faith inspires them. This includes my wife and I being in their homes, interacting with their children, and conversing privately with their spouses.

        Conversely, I do worry about zealots, particularly when their version of the word of God encourages the notion of convert or die.

        For the record, my son’s Navy special forces patrol was attacked via IED in Nasiriyah, Iraq. I am not someone blinded by hate or unfounded hope.

        It is a difficult problem.

    • What if the US government takes the same approach to Islam that they took to the LDS church? The US government forced the LDS church to repudiate polygamy. In the 1970’s the US government forced the LDS church to allow blacks to become full members. I don’t hear anyone complaining that those actions were wrong.

  5. Islam is a problem. It is as unethical to deny that as to react rashly and unjustly to it.

    Bingo. Stated in a way I prefer, Islam has a problem it refuses to confront. Instead, it gives lip service to the militant side of the religion while secretly approving of their objectives if not their methods.

    Can you imagine how it would be if Christians got all sentimental about the Crusades, and decided it was time to see them through in modern times? It would cause outrage, possibly even a demand that Christianity be declared a terrorist ideology. Even worse, we have companies being denied the ability to open a store in certain places because their corporate leadership decided to donate to Christian causes that hurt the sensibilities of certain “marginalized” groups.

    But according to our betters on the Left, Muslims are victims, dont’cha know, of the EEEEvil Jewish occupation of their lands! It’s understandable for them to advocate murder! We should just make soothing sounds and explain gently that murder is wrong in any context, and if that doesn’t work, then we must be tolerant, but only of the Muslims — not of the Jooz.

    Until we stop picking winners and losers among the people of faith, we are all losers. I don’t care if Islam is benign or not, or even if they loathe Jews. What I do care about is everyone looking the other way when Muslims insist that murdering their opposition is the solution to their problems. And that’s exactly what’s going on here.

    What we really don’t want is for Israel to decide that the Muslims might be on to something.

  6. On a tangential note, I’ve figured out how to create an eternal engine. You take one electric generator and one Ilhan Omar, and attach her to the input shaft. You then ask her, as devout believer in the Islamic faith, what is her view on abortion. The amount of rotational energy generated should be sufficient to run St. Paul-Minneapolis for a year.

  7. Back when I first heard about this story at the beginning of May I recalled a conversation, I guess it was really an argument, I’d previously had with someone I’ve known for many years. This person is an atheist, an outspoken supporter of the Palestinian people and also a verbal defender of Islam calling it a “peaceful religion”. Our face-to-face conversation was 10+ years ago and I was challenging him on his claims that Islam is a peaceful religion. I explained to him that I’ve heard from lots and lots of sources over many years and well before 9/11 that Islam openly teaches bigotry and violence against those that are not followers of Islam, especially Jews, and he forcefully argued, providing no proof, that the claims were absolutely false and there is absolutely no proof of such things. Guess he couldn’t correlate the actions of Muslims using open violent and non-violent intimidation tactics and calling for jihad against infidels and then actually following through with their jihad and murdering those terrible infidels since nearly the beginning of time as proof. It wasn’t a good conversation and we’ve barely spoken since then.

    Fast forward…

    Guess who I contacted in early May after a very long hiatus and shared the translated video of the children and simply asked this question “What do you think of this video?”, I didn’t share my opinion, I only asked for his. What I got back was a hate filled rant and an absolute and unequivocal denial of the legitimacy of the video. He stated that the translation was false and the whole thing was fabricated to smear Muslims, he offered no proof. He also demanded in rather colorful language that I never contact him again; boy did he get an “ear” full about his demand, he can choose to ignore any contact I choose to send his way but he cannot control who I choose to contact.

    Here is my opinion about the video…

    If the translation is completely accurate, and I have no reason to believe it’s not, and knowing that this took place in a predominately English speaking country, then here are my questions:

    1. Did the children fully understand the meaning of what they were singing?

    2. Did the parents of the children fully understand the meaning of what was being sung?

    As a general rule when working with children that are being prepared for a singing “performance” of any kind; the music is ALWAYS sent home with the children to practice with their parents for weeks in advance. No responsible parent would allow their child to sing in a language that they do not understand without knowing full well what the meaning of the words were. The fact that this made it all the way to being performed, videoed and no one stopped the performance in its tracks is signature significance of the entire bigoted Islamic culture.

    • Two separate topics in reply to your comment.

      What I got back was a hate filled rant and an absolute and unequivocal denial of the legitimacy of the video. He stated that the translation was false and the whole thing was fabricated to smear Muslims, he offered no proof.

      The fact that the islamic center said this instead of attacking the translation is all the proof I need:

      We are very sad that within minutes all of this work was tarnished and we realize the mistake is ours to own. … We are deeply saddened to have hurt our partners in the Jewish community and beyond.

      That response wouldn’t have happened unless the translation was accurate. Instead, we would have been treated by angry rants from CAIR and others about the smear of Islam. Instead, we only got recognition that they were caught.

      He also demanded in rather colorful language that I never contact him again; boy did he get an “ear” full about his demand, he can choose to ignore any contact I choose to send his way but he cannot control who I choose to contact.

      Careful with that. Repeated unwanted contact can be considered illegal harassment. Just take solace in the fact that this so got under his skin and he had no ability to respond any other way than with anger means he has no rational justification for his position. It is a signature significance example of how so often, “atheism” is their respectable cover for their real position, anti-christian bigotry.

      • Matthew B wrote, “Careful with that. Repeated unwanted contact can be considered illegal harassment.”

        No worries in that regard, I only contact people directly if I think it’s warranted and we haven’t communicated in years, none of that is going to change just because he’s being a fucking prick. I have absolutely no problem letting a snake-in-the-grass lay there undisturbed, but I also don’t have a problem confronting that snake-in-the-grass if I think it’s needed.

      • Jack Marshall wrote, “Denial has become the reflex response of so many progressives and Democrats to any fact that they find undermines their belief system.”

        Yup, their so brainwashed into that kind of reaction it’s becoming hard coded into their psyche; it’s a pretty sad state of affairs.

    • Mr. Zoltar,

      I have one point I would like to make that may invalidate a little of your final conclusion. You claim that they music must have gone home with the children. In my experience, through all my choral performances in choir from fourth grade through high school, I was only once allowed to take music home, and that was because the choir director decided to switch me to a different vocal line two days before the concert and did not trust my memorization skills enough to think that one hour long class including five other songs was sufficient for total memorization of a vastly different harmonic part, in a foreign language, with musical sequences foreign to Western tradition – it was a traditional Japanese song about cherry blossoms. Taking music home was forbidden in all of my choirs because there was no fund for damaged or lost music. Of course, copyright means that you can’t give a kid a copy of the music either, or so they told us. College, when I had to buy my own octavos, was when music was not confined to the classroom.

      The parents may well have never seen that music and trusted the teacher to be appropriate. If someone does not homeschool their kids, they must grant some trust to the teacher. And even homeschoolers often have to give a class or two to another teacher. I trade music for art, for example, and as my kids get older, will likely take on more students in math and the physical sciences. Parents all hope that the spot checks are adequate for, unless they can always sit in class with their children, they cannot know all that the kids are taught.

      In addition, I currently run an (extremely small) adult choir for my church. There is one member who does not sing well in Latin or Spanish. If she, an adult, can destroy the pronunciation of “Tantum Ergo” and “De Colores,” imagine what a kid might say. When I ran a children’s choir, I could barely recognize the English words to “The First Noel.” I once floored people in my Spanish class when discussing our likes and dislikes. I tried to say that I like to swim, but in fact said I liked nothing (stupid verb conjugation). A parent with an iffy understanding of the language and a kid practicing with an iffy pronunciation may think that the song is about something completely different. We see that in English all the time with any song sung by Clarence Clearwater. “Baking Carrot Biscuits” (Taking Care of Business) is my favorite example, though I went through my childhood singing a song about the evils of saxophones from the radio. (The real lyrics are “sex and drugs.”).

      Now, if the music did go home or the parents knew the song and the meaning of the lyrics then you are positively correct.

      • This is from The Inquires Daily News at Philly.com:

        “The Leaders Academy is described as an independent organization based at MAS Philadelphia, which is also known as Al-Hidaya Mosque/Masjid. It rents space at the mosque and offers K-12 students who use the Pennsylvania Cyber Charter School curriculum a place to complete lessons with the help of volunteer aides, said Timothy Welbeck, a lawyer for the Philadelphia branch of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR).”

        The Academy stated the children were not sufficiently literate in Arabic language to understand the context of the songs. Now, this is a charter school. A school. Not some after-school cultural enrichment program. These were school aged kids being taught to sing songs they did not understand, according to CAIR. Apparently, neither did the teachers. Anyone buying that? I thought not. CAIR did say that the songs were chosen because the Academy gas a large Palestinian population.

        jvb

        • So they’re intentionally brainwashing the children with something that on the surface could easily appear to unknowing individuals to be something as innocuous as “Row, Row, Row Your Boat”.

        • Cair said the songs were chosen because of the large palestinian student population.

          If a choice was made for that reason someone understood the words in order to make that choice and the Palestinian children would also understand the words so they understand the reason for the choice.

      • Sarah,
        My experience with children taking music home has been vastly different than yours and I’ve been directly involved with coral productions for grade school, middle school, high school, sunday school and a huge pile of theatrical productions. Most of the choral or sunday school program music was purchased outright and students were all allowed to take it home, sometimes there were fees if it wasn’t returned in usable condition (only pencils were allowed to be used for notes). Theatrical production scripts/scores are usually rented if they aren’t in the public domain and there are rather steep fees for lost or damaged books. In theatrical productions it’s been my experience that only only leads and supporting leads got full books (some others got smaller abridged versions) to take home and the chorus, including non-lead children, would generally share books during rehearsals.

        I’m not saying your experiences aren’t true, I’m just sharing mine too.

  8. I am not convinced that Islam is the problem. I know many Muslims who are fully assimilated to American culture and values.

    I also know that the Koran has very inflammatory and violent passages.

    I also know that there is a theological argument that certain passages modify other passages.

    I also understand that, unlike Christianity and Judaism, Islam views its holy book as the literal word of God/Allah.

    Knowing all of that, I also know that many Muslim majority nations are fucked up places.

    We have a correlation-causation problem.

    Are they screwed up because they follow Islam.

    Or, are they just messed up brutally authoritarian cultures that happen to be Islamic. Are they simply where Christians were 500 years ago? If they were Christians, would they be any less obnoxious and violent.

    Would they be launching Crusades against Israel to re-claim the Holy Land from the evil Jews.

    Too long; didn’t read: is the problem Islam, or Arab culture?

    -Jut

    • You make a good point but what if those f’d up countries are batardizing an otherwise benign religion and exporting the bastardized version everywhere. Where is the internal Islamic outrage?

      • Every last apostate from Islam with a public platform has stated, in no uncertain terms, that “Islam is Islam”, and that the term “radical Islam” is an intentional fiction.

    • Pakistan, Afghanistan, Myanmar, Indonesia, China, and the Philippines all seem to have many issues around Islam and the perpetrators are not Arab, so I think dispenses with your final question.

      • Not really. I will grant you; I struggled about the use of the word, “Arab.” Not a great word. Thought about “Middle-East.”

        Leave all of that aside.

        My point was that: is it Islam, or is it the cultures Islam arise in? Arab, Middle East, Persian, North African, doesn’t matter.

        Is it inherent to Islam, or is it the culture shock between different cultures.

        -Jut

    • Or, are they just messed up brutally authoritarian cultures that happen to be Islamic. Are they simply where Christians were 500 years ago? If they were Christians, would they be any less obnoxious and violent.

      To possibly answer that, you might also ask which religion’s adherents are actually following the teachings and life example of their respective prophet when they practice violent conquest, murder, theft, lying, etc.

  9. So very true; Islam IS a problem, and it is going to be MORE of a problem as time goes on, until it is THE problem. It’s nothing less than an existential threat, and even if we suddenly woke up tomorrow, en-masse, and recognized it for precisely that, I doubt we have enough fingers to plug this particular dike. You don’t have to be an internet detective to find any of the countless video recordings and quotes of Islamic clerics all over the World stating that they intend to breed us out of existence, and establish Sharia Law even before then, once they get close to having the numeric advantage. As things stand in Europe, native birthrates in every country are far below 2, that being the bare minimum rate of population maintenance, while Europe-wide, the Muslim birthrate is over * (per couple), and these numbers were compiled several years BEFORE the migrant invasion! As things stand, the point of no return has come and gone. It’s really only a matter of time before Europe is entirely Muslim, for all intents and purposes. Conservative estimates put that date as no later than 2050.

    • We will end up having to classify Islam honestly, as something much more than a religion, if we want to have even a chance of dying on our feet, rather than on our knees. This WILL come to blows, and it will not be pretty. God help us!

    • Sharia courts are already working their magic here in the states. Parties submut business disputes to courts, and the mullahs/imams make “recommendations”. Then, the parties get counsel to ink the agreement.

      jvb

  10. I’ve asked two or three Muslims (when the time for such conversation was appropriate,) “was Mohammed sinning when he married a girl who was 9 years old?”

    It is impossible for a Muslim to answer “yes,” because Mohammed’s sinlessness is fundamental to Islam. So the standard response was that he must have done it to “protect” her somehow.

    If you ask a similar question, “Was Mohammed sinning when he invaded people’s land and captured, sold, and castrated African slaves?” the standard response is that it was done in self-defense somehow. If you point out that lands invaded by Mohammed and his successors were not the aggressors, you’ll enjoy a circuitous explanation about how anyone who doesn’t accept Islam is technically an enemy, although they won’t use those exact words. This is what they actually believe.

    It’s easy for a Christian to denounce the Crusades (or at least the excess and barbarism of much of them) because these are behaviors that Jesus neither demonstrated nor endorsed. Islam is what you get if Jesus actually had LED the Crusades, endorsed butchery, slavery, and rape, and participated in said excesses himself. Mohammed, like Jesus, is considered to have led the perfect and exemplary life, so you can see where this becomes a problem.

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