“He had the hardest time getting off the fact that Lindsay viciously killed her children.”
—Kellie Farina, one of the three jurors interviewed following the mistrial called in the Lindsay Clancy murder case, after the jury deadlocked 11-1 with a single hold-out male juror refusing to vote for acquittal.
That may end up being an iconic unethical quote, one that echoes through the years as America comes to realize how shattered the values of American women have become in the wake of the Supreme Court’s overturning of Roe v. Wade.
The especially nice touch is the use of “viciously,” don’t you think? ‘Imagine, this idiot was somehow stuck on the fact that a mother murdered her three small children viciously! What’s the matter with him?’
I’d like to know what’s the matter with anyone who can “get over” the fact that three children were murdered by their own mother “viciously.”
Wading into the waters of this event is a very technical pursuit. I love what you wrote about the lone juror’s veto.
The quote itself “He had the hardest time getting off the fact that Lindsay visciously killed her children.” I think is not unethical.
She’s technically correct that the trial was not about whether or not she viciously killed her children. That was stipulated in the plea. If that was the point he was going to hang his hat, he obviously was not following instructions and was playing the lone juror veto and setting a standard….but that’s her perception of where he was stuck.
Try changing the quote. What if she said “He had the hardest time getting off the fact that Lindsay pre-meditated and meticulously planned for how she would kill her children.” well…if that was the quote, then not only is he a lone juror hero, but he’s also technically correct.
In the original quote, she’s attacking a valid point – particularly if he wasn’t even engaging on the question before them, which is “What was her mental state?”
Caveat: I didn’t watch any of the trial, I’m only opining from the sidelines and trying to keep people talking about the technical aspect of the judicial process. Is it unethical to criticize a holdout who was acting outside the bounds of deliberation? Perhaps he was hung up because he already witnessed the nurses injecting their own “expertise” and figured “two can play that game”. Tit for Tat. His reasons are his own, but I don’t think the quote is unethical in this instance.
The way she worded it was tone-deaf at least.
“The Clancy trial’s holdout juror seems to believe that there are some crimes so terrible that society must punish them for its own preservation, and that the insanity defense shouldn’t save them. This is similar to the justification of the Nuremberg Trials: even though following lawful orders usually will insulate a subordinate from accountability in wartime, the world made an exception in the case of Hitler’s genocide. The war crime tribunal stood for the principle that some crimes could not be tolerated in a civilized society, even during wartime.”
In fact, your first sentence immediately took me to Justice Jackson’s statement: “The wrongs which we seek to condemn and punish have been so calculated, so malignant, and so devastating, that civilization cannot tolerate their being ignored, because it cannot survive their being repeated.”
Let me clarify that you are quoting Justice ROBERT Jackson, chief prosecutor at Nuremberg, and not the current Justice Jackson, who has never said anything that coherent in her life….
Positively, absolutely, undeniabily and reliably true. Yes, I was referring to late Justice Robert Jackson.
An unbelievable quote…very indicative of what appears to be the Left’s complete contempt and total disregard for children, but unbelievable nonetheless.
Something I’d like clarity on: Did he have reasonable doubt about the final guilt, or only about the prosecutions claim that she was sane? I have a suspicion that he said one thing and the person quoted didn’t understand what he was saying. The prosecution only has to meet a preponderance of the evidence standard to prove sanity. Which is still more generous to the defense than most jurisdictions where it’s up to the defense to prove insanity.
“Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?”
–charles w abbott
rochester NY
I am very thankful for this brave juror. This case is monstrous.
“He had the hardest time getting off the fact that Lindsay visciously killed her children.”
And to that juror I ask,
what is wrong with you that you can let that go ….?