Fugitive for 39 Years Turns Himself In For Free Health Care…Wait, WHAT??

"Oh, Mr. Moore? We have that bed you made 39 years ago. Now lie on it."

“Oh, Mr. Moore? We have that bed you made 39 years ago. Now lie on it.”

From NBC:

“…Clarence David Moore, 66, called the Franklin County (Kentucky)Sheriff’s Office on Monday and said he wanted to turn himself in, the sheriff’s office said. When deputies arrived, they found Moore — who’d been living in Frankfort since 2009 and had ID’d himself as Ronnie Dickinson — partially paralyzed and unable to walk because of a recent stroke. He was arrested and taken by ambulance to a hospital for examination before he was taken to the Franklin County Regional Jail.

“Sheriff Pat Melton told NBC station WLEX of Lexington on Tuesday that Moore said he’d escaped from the Henderson County, North Carolina, Prison Unit in the mid-1970s and has been on the lam for almost four decades. But as he got sicker, he couldn’t get medical coverage to pay for the complications of his stroke and other health problems, because he doesn’t have a valid Social Security number under his alias…Moore was arraigned Tuesday morning and waived extradition to North Carolina on a charge of being a fugitive from another state. He was being held without bond pending his being returned sometime this week….”

I hate to appear uncharitable, but I don’t understand this at all.

Moore chose to defy the justice system for 39 years, and now wants to get the benefit of it on his terms, when it’s useful and convenient to him?

He chose to avoid paying his debt to society. Society certainly has no debt to him. The ethical course is for the North Carolina’s governor to pardon Moore, and allow him to fend for himself, stroke or not. For taxpayers to have to foot the bill for a felon’s health care when he has shown nothing but utter contempt for the justice system is a travesty of justice, logic and ethics. If it’s compassion at issue, take the money that would have to be spent on Moore and use it to help an elderly law-abiding citizen who can’t pay his medical bills.

Or burn it.

Does the State have some subtle ethical obligation to the fugitive that I’m missing?

31 thoughts on “Fugitive for 39 Years Turns Himself In For Free Health Care…Wait, WHAT??

  1. I thought about this carefully for about 8 seconds. The answer is “no’, and your solution is perfectly fair to me. If the NC governor pardoned him, he could then get coverage under his real SS number, which he would be eligible for anyway.

    • But can he afford the healthcare premiums and deductables that he would be eligable to have under his real social security? The man can’t even walk so there is actually more than just a need for healthcare. He will get meals and round the clock care as well as any accomadations he might need due to his inability to walk. Depending on where he goes, he could be very comfortable and content. He will have it much better than many honest and decent older people who are barely scraping by. Doesn’t seem fair. What a jerk.

      • Medicare doesn’t care. Part A takes care of hospitalization, Part B of doctors visits. Both are Part D which covers prescriptions. What else would he need?

  2. I guess the question is – if you did pardon him, is his recidivism likelihood through the roof? If he’s desperate enough to turn himself in for past crimes, you’d think he’s desperate enough to commit a new crime to get to the same end result. If I were the governor, though I think that would be proper justice, I think I would fear him hurting someone to spite my own spite…leaving his actions on my conscience. I don’t think this is an “ethics train wreck” but it’s some kind of “No-win catch-22 damned if you do damned if you don’t cluster”.

  3. I don’t see a problem here. Give the man what he deserves: a private isolation room in the oldest operating prison infirmary in the state under the exclusive care of Alexandra Robbins & her friends.

  4. Untangling the laws governing this is beyond my mental capabilities, but between Medicare, Medicaid, and the prison infirmary, taxpayers will be paying his medical bills one way or another, so I’m not sure it really matters.

    • Turning around T. Regina’s infamous post-Benghazi retort: At this point, it makes no difference. Well, I disagree: It would (make a difference), if society would decide to suffer the suffering that the “con man” deserves.

      • I didn’t say that right, Apr 22 at 6:13 pm. What I meant, in the last half of my final sentence above, is “…if society would decide to let the “con man” suffer the suffering he deserves.” (I agree with Jack.)

    • 1. That’s not what happened here. He was a fugitive, avoided paying the social and lega price for his crime, and then turns to the state now, when confinement means nothing and the benefit is all his. And the state has the power to tell him to get lost, and should.

      2. The fact that something’s not rare doesn’t make it right or tolerable

      • 1. The difference is irrelevant. You’re still voluntarily putting yourself in jail.

        2. I didn’t say that — but it does make me wonder how twisted our world has become that prison might be better than living freely in poverty.

          • I think it is more complicated that that. Every society will have a huge number of takers, but it will also have a large percentage of people who work hard but will never be able to lift themselves out of poverty. No one has come up with a solution yet.

  5. Is it wrong that my first thought when reading this was to be strongly reminded of O. Henry’s The Cop and the Anthem?

  6. A pardon would just leave him either as A: able to make use of the existing social safety nets, or B: able to use his existing and at presumably semi-legitimately gained resources (through work though not necessarily taxed) resources to pay for insurance. It would seem he’s going to get medical care one way or another.

    Putting him back in prison would serve the purpose of prison. Depriving him of his liberty because he committed crimes. The least bad, legal option.

  7. I love this story. I think he should be taken to the Rose Garden for a photo op with the President in honor of this guy’s being enrolled in Obamacare. I’ll even write the beginning of the script for the President: “I’d like to introduce you to my good friend, Mr. Clarence Ronnie Dickinson Moore. He’s good folks. And Clarence, can I call you Lumpy, Clarence? is here today to help me high light the great progress we’re making on getting the uninsured insured….”

    • Ha, my first thought was this guy is a poster child for Obamacare!
      I’m shocked there hasn’t already been a Presidential pardon announced and a DOJ investigation. This is priceless press for the whole campaign, what’s not to love. Well other than the whole criminal thing but hey that’s a cake walk compared to what Eric Holder and crew have been able to sweep aside.
      By the way – LOVED the pardon idea, that’s a classic!

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