Comments Of The Day (2): “Desperate Ethics Quote Of The Week: Louis C.K.”

There were two Comments of the Day  on this post.

The first is a lovely and compassionate one from Charlie Green regarding Louis C.K.’s eloquent admission of misconduct and appeal for forgiveness; the second, a reminder of the importance of forgiveness from Zoltar Speaks!, often at sword-points with Charles on other issues. Both are worthy of separate posts, and I hope Charles and Zoltar don’t feel slighted by being asked to share. In this case, I felt that the pairing was complementary.

First, here is the Comment of the Day by Charles Green on the post, Desperate Ethics Quote Of The Week: Louis C.K.

A friend said, and it rings true, “to be a comedian, you have to be afraid, confused, and conflicted; and all of them are very angry.” Indeed, it’s their confusion and anguished conflict that makes them so interesting to us.

The best thing Louis CK said in his response was, “It’s now time for me to listen.” Contrast that with Michael Richards’ anguished attempt to continually go public with his attempts at self-analysis and self-justification – an abject failure. When “there’s something happening here, and you don’t know what it is…” – apparently the case in for Louis CK – the one smart thing for him to do is shut up and listen. Deeply.

When you’re faced with a situation you honestly don’t understand, and your career depends on your continued inability to make sense of it, the dumbest thing you can do is to suddenly attempt public self-psychoanalysis.

Most comedians – think Joan Rivers, or Redd Foxx, Kathy Griffin or Sarah Silverman – have crossed the line a few times, and not just in jokes falling flat. That’s why they work out material in small late-night dive joints. We depend on, thrive on, their ability to walk just up to the line, and not cross over it. And some of them cross the line in their lives off-stage as well.

There’s no excuse for Louis CK doing what he did, and talented friends like Pamela Adlon will suffer collateral damage. He couldn’t see where the line was, and now he’ll bring down still more victims with him.

Among other things, it’s a shame.

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Now Comment of the Day #2 on the same post, this time authored by Zoltar Speaks!

The real question everyone has to ask themselves is; when there is an apology from a person that has done things like this many, many years after the fact and that apology is clearly a #1 on the apology scale do you accept the apology and forgive the person. I think the apology should be accepted at face value especially if there’s no evidence that the person has repeated the behavior indicating that the person matured and learned the right lessons from their “wrongs”.

I’m having a problem with those that are publicizing these things from many, many years ago without going to the person that wronged them and having a personal conversation with them. Life is all about choices; how you make them, what you learn from them, and how you choose to live with them. Past choices, even choices that you would now consider to be bad choices, make you the person you are right now, in this exact moment in time. Did the person that wronged me learn the right lessons from the experience, this really can only be answered one-on-one. I would hope that I would give a person that wronged me this kind of consideration before being vindictive and publicizing something that could destroy their life.

Make sure you are willing to judge yourself using the same standards that you judge others. Look back at your life and remember the things that weigh heavily on you, wrongs that you may have done to others, lessons you learned from your wrongs, and ask yourself if you would truly like forgiveness from those you’ve wronged?

Forgiveness is a very powerful thing, try it sometime.

Forgiveness
By Matthew West

It’s the hardest thing to give away
And the last thing on your mind today
It always goes to those that don’t deserve

It’s the opposite of how you feel
When the pain they caused is just too real
It takes everything you have just to say the word…

Forgiveness
Forgiveness

It flies in the face of all your pride
It moves away the mad inside
It’s always anger’s own worst enemy
Even when the jury and the judge
Say you gotta right to hold a grudge
It’s the whisper in your ear saying ‘Set It Free’

Forgiveness, Forgiveness
Forgiveness, Forgiveness

Show me how to love the unlovable
Show me how to reach the unreachable
Help me now to do the impossible

Forgiveness, Forgiveness

Help me now to do the impossible
Forgiveness

It’ll clear the bitterness away
It can even set a prisoner free
There is no end to what it’s power can do
So, let it go and be amazed
By what you see through eyes of grace
The prisoner that it really frees is you

Forgiveness, Forgiveness
Forgiveness, Forgiveness

Show me how to love the unlovable
Show me how to reach the unreachable
Help me now to do the impossible
Forgiveness

I want to finally set it free
So show me how to see what Your mercy sees
Help me now to give what You gave to me
Forgiveness, Forgiveness

There are videos out there of the story that inspired the words in this song.

[And here’s the second part of the video above…]

8 Comments

Filed under Arts & Entertainment, Character, Comment of the Day, Ethics Alarms Award Nominee, Ethics Train Wrecks

8 responses to “Comments Of The Day (2): “Desperate Ethics Quote Of The Week: Louis C.K.”

  1. charlesgreen

    Thanks Jack, and I’m honored to share the COTD honor with Zoltar, I thought that was a terrific piece he wrote.
    Thank you.

  2. Wow, I had no idea this was coming!

    Thanks Jack, and I too I’m honored to share the COTD honor with Charles. I hadn’t even gotten that far down the other thread so I just now got to read the comment. Charles’ comment hit the nail on the head about listening and public self-psychoanalysis. I thought Charles’ comment was spot on throughout.

    It’s actually quite nice to share a solid foundation of underlying human commonality (as I call it) spotlight with someone even if we’re on opposite sides of the same coin other times, it shows just how connected we can be at our core despite our other differences. There are no chasm walls created so distant by ideologies that are not bridged by the solid foundation of underlying human commonalities that support those ideologies.

    I’ll share COTD with anyone, in fact as a general thing, I love sharing the spotlight in a duet rather than being a solo act.

    Many thanks again Jack.

  3. Other Bill

    Authentic Frontier Gibberish. Jacking off in front of strangers? Sorry guys. Inexcusable.

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